See the

puppetlabs-docker

module at https://forge.puppet.com/puppetlabs/docker?src=slack&channel=voxpupuli

(he's setting up an 'exec' type for direct deploy.)

kjetilho: yes

can they provide a PR for the README.md?

i'm afraid to click that link

mhm :D

maybe get some alcohol first

wtf

wtf does that even mean

perforce is shipping proprietary binaries now?

"hardened" because GPG signatures are too hard?

"As a team of engineers and builders, we need to prioritize innovation and acceleration of the delivery of our product direction. One of the ways we know we can do that is by reducing the frequency of commits to open source code."

that's a new one.

step 1 of killing open source: done

very interesting as well that under the heading "What's Not Changing?" they list "We will release hardened Puppet releases to a new location and will slow down the frequency of commits of source code to public repositories."

how is slowing down something "not changing"?

yes, we've seen this before "sure, we will publish all our code -- eventually."

I can understand them discontinuing free access to today's "omnibus" packages. leave packaging to distros? but it causes more fragmentation in the eco-system.

Zhenech: I think we need to come up with a plan to stop shipping Puppet by default in Foreman because this isn't going to work; at least it'll be very complicated for our CI

kjetilho: also how are we supposed to build packages when they've internal forks for their packages. doesn't sounds like the packages would be compatible

bastelfreak: we'll likely have a split in the ecosystem and we're back to the Puppet < 4 days

sounds like it

recently I heard that many VMware customers are now looking at migrating, not from VMware to some other VMs but actually push through to containerized workloads

I can imagine many Puppet users will do the same: just don't bother and move to more immutable systems instead of trying to use tooling like Puppet to manage state

ewoud: absolutely. I have a rather large Puppet 3 installation since those VM's have been considered legacy for a few years. everything new is done in Kubernetes.

bastelfreak: https://github.com/voxpupuli/puppet-gitlab_ci_runner/pull/209 - so nice to be allowed to push branches and not have to fork :)

we prefer forks :P

but yes, that works

ah, sorry.