how is initstyle / init_style getting set ?

the fact comes from stdlib I think

Hmmm. so that's included, let me check what's going on, that's useful, thank you

and that fact also works with facter 4.2.8

can I query validate that fact from the command line ?

as facter won't know about stdlinb

stdlib

puppet facts show service_provider

I apprecaite this is basic, but how does that work, as 'facter' on it's own doesnt' show it, is the 'show' changing the lookup ?

how did you test it with facter

facter -p service_provider?

tried facter service_provider and facter | grep -i service_provider

when the puppet agent starts, it connects to the puppetserver and does a pluginsync and downloads a bunch of stuff. for example additional facter code

and if you check facter --help you will see you need

facter -p

so it uses the downloaded additional code

so calling it via puppet, rather than facter directly make sense

superb, thank you

pure

facter

only shows core facts.

puppet facts

is almost equal to

facter -p

right, because it queries the puppet server with all the classes associated with that host that create facts

rather than the embedded core facts

no

oh

the pluginsync downloads all additional code that's present in an environment

no matter if it's coming from a module you're not using. as long as it's in the environment the agent requests, the code is downlaoded

so it's enviornment not class

o/ On vacation at the moment but Zach the awesome author of a bunch of cool puppet modules wants to drop his modules and I think some of them deserve to be transferred to Voxpupuli. I am writing here so that there might be a discussion here (I will not be able to track this correctly until I am back from vacation next week) about the modules we may want to take care of. I am an active user of his bacula module and also his ssh module (and a few other ones but much more of a niche usage). See https://github.com/xaque208/puppet-bacula/issues/171 for more details and maybe a discussion 😉 Thanks!

o/ On vacation at the moment but Zach the awesome author of a bunch of cool puppet modules wants to drop his modules and I think some of them deserve to be transferred to Voxpupuli. I am writing here so that there might be a discussion here (I will not be able to track this correctly until I am back from vacation next week) about the modules we may want to take care of. I am an active user of his bacula module and also his ssh module (and a few other ones but much more of a niche usage). See https://github.com/xaque208/puppet-bacula/issues/171 for more details and maybe a discussion 😉 Thanks!

thank you bastelfreak that points me at where I need to research more,

problem appears to be Raspian, it seems to behave different than all other OS's even though it's based from Debian

but its arm and not x86

subtle difference :D