(in the Debian package)

in the Fedora package they're synced to /var/lib/puppet/lib and not /var/cache/puppet/lib - perhaps that's the difference?

yes, symlinking that does cause it to load the synced modules

maybe what I saw in the strace output was it refreshing its cache of modules to sync, but it didn't load them in its application path?

could be

in terms of paths, for the 7.x package I wanted to stay consistent with the puppet 5.5 package, but maybe we have to make some changes

it's tricky - it really is cached data since it can retrieve it again but it's also application code that gets loaded

but maybe the goal should be to find out why it doesn't add it to its load path

ewoud: I need to step out, let me know what you find out and I can help test later

lavamind: will do, though I'll probably do something else for a bit since it's weekend

:)

my goal would be to have a bullseye-backports package that works so I can get rid of Puppet 5 :)

lavamind: hmm, it may have had something to do with my puppet.conf which had a libdir setting in its agent section and that messes things up with Puppet 7 while it worked with Puppet 5

lavamind: ok, removing that and placing it back in /var/lib/puppet/lib makes it work again

/var/lib/puppet/lib looks pretty awful :p

but whatever works

by default $libdir = "$vardir/lib"

i see

ewoud: could you provide a "puppet config print" that works on for puppet-agent 7.x on Debian ?

ewoud: I've tested the Debian puppet-agent 7.20-1 package against a puppetlabs 7 puppetserver, and custom seems to work fine, I've tested cron and augeas

custom types

its synchronizing the new providers, types, etc under /var/cache/puppet/lib

so I think it just works if you use the default vardir, libdir, etc directories that the package sets up

lavamind: I'll later play with it a bit more

lavamind: at least I have a decent grasp on what's going on now

alright

lavamind: the only annoying thing is the rename of the service from puppet to puppet-agent, which I have to reflect in our module theforeman/puppet

yeah, that's a big leap

src:puppet-agent does provide a puppet package though

lavamind: and I considered an alias in puppet-agent.service but then doing overrides still have to be done in puppet-agent.service.d