s11s

(can't help you directly in this case since have never used Zoho) But if I may ask, what all do you plan on using the Marketing Hub for?

Hey Nishchal, I will be doing exactly the same thing in some time. Move from Zoho To HubSpot (most probably). Right now im managing with it but I know it's not a tool that can be used once you have things flowing in at a pace. I will check with my team and get back to you if they know any HubSpot consultants. All the best for your transition.

Please post this on <#C0318NH5G3C|>. No promotion of your own content here. Thanks for understanding

<@U030KCF7C8Y> please move the post to <#C0318NH5G3C|> 

Deleting this now.

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i am guessing it would need dev expertise

by personal email id you mean domains like <http://gmail.com|gmail.com> etc right?

1 options is embed the hubspot form in 2 pages (1 which restricts) and 1 which doesnt

use some geo redirection tool/devops to send traffic to appropriate form based on country

Yes i mean the domains like <http://gmail.com|gmail.com>

Its a good option to embed form in 2 pages but we will end up having multiple pages with duplicate content.

So whole idea is to exclude <http://gmail.com|gmail.com> domains from India as its not our target region and want to keep it only for US.

why not just filtered out in CRM and ignore? i am just trying to understand if that would be the lowest tech option

Do yo incur a huge cost of allowing such leads to be created?

Yes this can be done like ignoring but wanted to make sure that if we create a report/dashboard in hubspot which shoes the correct numbers.

<@U02UPBP2012> why not accept all leads regardless and tackle them in your lead assignment/filtering logic?

Yes. Create an active list with domains containing Gmail and country India and maybe unassign them or assign them to a default user. You could also add to unqualified. So, in your reports, you can use this to filter out these to show the correct numbers.

We had created a property called “free domain” and marked every sign up which signed up with a gmail/yahoo/yopmail as yes. 

To identify these domains - we created a workflow and put a list of free/disposable email providers with the logic, email contains this - mark as free domain = Yes

And then every report / dashboard we just filtered out by free domain 

<https://knowledge.hubspot.com/forms/what-domains-are-blocked-when-using-the-forms-email-domains-to-block-feature|https://knowledge.hubspot.com/forms/what-domains-are-blocked-when-using-the-forms-email-domains-to-block-feature>
Hubspot also allows you to restrict free mail form fills- you could try that or use the list in this article to create your workflow. Hope this helps :) 

This is interesting. Thanks for sharing. Will try out the above given options..

The workaround we use - We do not use HubSpot forms to collect the leads. We use our own form (Where we validate/block email IDs to complete) &amp; then pass the lead info using HubSpot API. This lets us have complete control of which domains get to enter our system. As &amp; when we observe a new random domain, we manually block them. Collecting personal IDs unnecessarily wastes S/M bandwidth.

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HubSpot provide an option in the form setting itself. You can add country field in the form and apply logic optiin

You should switch this on for all geos, on the longer run it is quite pointless to have personal email ids (unless you have a B2B2C model).

Segment is $ 2o-60k for &gt; 50 mn events per month

we have 50K$ credits in <http://segment.com|segment.com>

was wondering how much runway would we get

<@U03158A1WPK> thanks for the help - their pricing page is so deep hidden, finally found it

Why do you Segment? Apart from data pipelining, are you using any other offerings?

If just pipeline, you can move to Rudderstack at almost free of cost.

If you have data in multiple sources, instead of data engineering via ETL+ DWH, a CDP like Segment helps. Just that the cost zooms up in marketing data.

From what I know with our internal efforts, Rudderstack involves lot more engineering effort, and then using it for analytics etc as well.

That's what I asked in the first place, what's the purpose?

If just to flow data to multiple platforms, then RS is helpful (not much effort vs cost).
I still think Segment would be expensive for something like CDP.

as. <@U03158A1WPK> said primary use case as we have multiples sources and destinations
we currently have website traffic we collect via JS (source) and certain other data we source via API (course registration/consumption/completion) etc. One of the big reasons was data consistency across different platforms.

we have not yet thought of marketing audience building use cases yet.

I would encourage you to move out of Segment, it's going to be expensive for <https://s11s.slack.com/archives/C02UPC0JKAQ/p1657105212337009?thread_ts=1656699476.890369&amp;cid=C02UPC0JKAQ|your use case>.

what alternative would you suggest? I also prefer ones which have no/low tech needs to maintain

One is <https://www.rudderstack.com/pricing|Rudderstack> till 5M events a month, initial low tech required, later almost 0.

Otherwise write a wrapper inside your code, that can do the job for free without any limits. One time 2-3 days of tech effort.

we have 50,000$ credits in <http://segment.com|segment.com> valid for 1 year

You can use it for now and move later to a self-sustained code wrapper.

They charge for Monthly Unique visitors count

If it is self hosted Ghost blog, this may help - <https://adapty.io/blog/webflow-ghost-blog-with-caddy|https://adapty.io/blog/webflow-ghost-blog-with-caddy>



Thanks <@U031P3UUGN4>, I'll reach out to our tech team to check on this.

Just curious. What's the rough budget freelancers charge to setup the CRM in terms of capturing website data and segmenting them into diff lists? And what would be the timeline for such a project? Could be HubSpot/freshworks/zoho?

No idea Arun. I'm still looking for someone.

I keep seeing this on my linkedin feed, hope it helps! - <https://www.chilipiper.com/resources/blog/chili-insights-vendor-response-time>

There is no industry standards as such. It varies based on the company, industry, targeting people, amount of high pain problems you solve. <@U02UPBP2012> 

Mql to Sql ( 40% min) 
Sql to opp ( 25% min)
Opp to win ( 50% min) 
Mql to win ( 7- 8%) 

This would be very useful. If anyone can share some numbers from their own product/company it would be great!

Great idea <@U033ASE526S>, way too early in my current role to share, but from a past enterprise product that did 95% of revenues from inbound marketing -
MQL&gt;Win - 5%

Blended average across US, EU, ANZ for us - SaaS for wine, very sharply defined ICP, average contract value &lt; USD 1000.

Lead to SQL  41%
SQL to Opportunity  26%
Demo to Win 60%
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MQL to Win 4%

It vary product to product. Every product have different stages, and funnel milestones.

• Maintain a single source of truth for all marketing data. 
• Share insights and observations from all the data, with stakeholders across the team. 
• Create benchmarks and flag changes in the marketing KPI trends. 

Thank you <@U03MKL4JYHW> <@U0309B5AYTB> :smile:

Hey folks :wave: I’m trying to understand how you currently approach the reporting aspect for some recurring initiatives we do often, like
• landing page redesigns
• hosting a new webinar
• launching a new blog post
• revamping a marketing campaign
And multiple other cases. Each have a few metrics for engagement that we measure + a few conversion goals that can result from it. Wondering what you have found to work

Also - for what cases above would you choose to go with a AB testing tool itself?

thanks guys

for android there is a standard way of tagging App Install Source, iOS is the bugger :neutral_face:

Yep - so I've gathered.
Got anything I can read for the Android bit?

<https://developer.android.com/google/play/installreferrer/library|https://developer.android.com/google/play/installreferrer/library>

Is it a recorded demo? Then Livestorm might help.

It's a live demo and one of my colleague sits through it to answer user queries

Registrations you can take through tracking from calendly and then you can map it with the attendees on Zoom. To get the attendees from zoom I’m sure zoom does helps in this with open api. 

Then With any reporting tool or some manual integrations with Google sheets I think that is doable. 

Yep zoom api also connects with Zapier. Should be doable from there.

Livestorm will help you on that...plus it also lets you track for how long the attendee was there...very helpful

If you are still havent solved your problem try to get a custom python script developed.. It wont cost you much. You can put your task on upwork or similar sites and get it done at a very low cost.

<#C0318NH5G3C|> JustCall. Alternatives are Aircall, Cloudtalk, Ringcentral 

Cloudtalk is the best. But they charge per min even for voicemail &amp; callhippo does not do that.

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<@U030SDYNX7V> - unable to get the resources try this out, will update if I find a solution!

Lusha is really good for APAC and decent for MEA. Not sure about Clearbit

Is this for company info or for emails and phone numbers?

<@U02VA8GB3KM> sales intends to use it for prospecting while I am looking at lead enrichment

A quick update, we did a test enrichment with both of them, clearbit was able to identify 90+% of contacts while ZI was able to identify just about 69% which was a surprise. Will try getting on calls with them both to understand pricing and report back.

I do not have enough standards on Clearbit, but in Zoominfo, I wouldn't trust a phone number of contacts with accuracy score &lt;95 and I wouldn't trust the email with contact accuracy score &lt;90.

<https://splitbee.io/> found this tool  - looks very promising, Will share more once i integrate and run a few a/b tests and automation

Curious to understand the specific challenges to scaleability here.

I will need to keep adding branches to the workflow when we add new ebooks. If we miss one or misspell the url the email will never go leading to bad user experience.

Currently we are opening the ebook as soon as the form is submitted but we fear that it will lead to poor quality of data or say fake contacts.

I am also looking for a solution here. The current setup is having a different form for each ebook

Not sure about Hubspot - in Marketo this is fairly easy. We create a campaign with the logic that if someone fill the form for ebook then Marketo should automatically send the email.  The form is created on Marketo only, so that Marketo recognizes the form fill

We use MoEngage but 45 minutes is too much to ask dude.

Fair enough <@U03A397SJCF>. You must be busy. I'll look for someone else.

Hi <@U030SDYNX7V> I might reach out to you in the next few days if I need more inputs

DM me questions in advance, so i am better prepared :slightly_smiling_face:

They are thei customer base. Here its predominantly SaaS folks, who will be using Marketo, Pardot, Hubspot

<https://sasi.unionworks.co.uk|https://sasi.unionworks.co.uk>/

<@U030WF42ABE> I have been using ^ this to monitor the performance of app but not able to find out a tool which can help me in finding relevant keyword searches by merchants. Does SASI allow that also, or any other tool you are aware of?

You have to get a paid subscription i think

Then it will mail you the relevant keywords your app is ranking for and the weekly shifts

yess just checked it out in depth. Thanks a lot!

Exploding topic tools usually gives the web trends for Shopify. Sorry, if that's not the right tool.

SASI only tracks and updates you for keywords you ask it to track.

Unfortunately, there is no tool that gives insights on Monthly search volume of a particular term in the Shopify marketplace.

That being said, the best you can find/know is:

• Terms that are driving traffic to your app listing
• Amount of traffic/pageviews each of those terms are sending. 

They are open to full time hire as well, if the person is open

Anyone has an Apptopia account and able to give me a data dump?

appannie used to provide this data for free, but is paid now.

Get a Paid account for a month in Apptopia. Worth it in terms of tike saving in bandwidth

<https://www.g2.com/compare/clevertap-vs-moengage>

Thanks, but the pricing info is not transparent on public platforms

If possible, please do share relevant links or your research report. <@U03R5AA0J74>

Clearout, <http://emaillistvalidation.com|emaillistvalidation.com> ( available on appsumo)

I trusted <http://datavalidation.com|datavalidation.com> across 3 orgs. Love the ease and reporting. Have not used it for 3 years thoguh

Oh it is now rebranded/acquired and it is now emailable. Same as <@U02V5F2JFME> mentioned

I’ve tried zerobounce and it’s been working great so far. Really detailed, good quality data in return so far.

I'm actively evaluating Clearout and Zerobounce. So far, both are good but I thin I'll fall towards Zerobounce.

I prefer Bouncer. used various tool but i found their UI is very easy to use comparing others

What use case are you looking to solve?

Clearbit, activecampaign, Hubspot, <http://Close.io|Close.io>

These are not exactly like Clevertap, MoEngage (might be wrong). I am looking for tools where I can build user (product) journeys, handle communications, get insights.

In other words — “customer engagement tools with developer sdk focused on B2B (freemium/PLG)“.  Does any of these tools have this?

For ex. customers of CleverTap, MoEngage, WebEngage are mostly B2C companies. I was curious to know why not B2B.

You are looking for Pendo or Heap dot io.

Pendo and Heap are analytics, not automation. Check <http://inflection.io|inflection.io>

<@U039L8V855E> check out Cooee(<http://www.letscooee.com|www.letscooee.com>) if it helps your use-case. We are a horizontal marketing stack.. gathering customer insights and deliver one-to-one personalised engagement.
Happy to demo you the platform.

Thanks <@U03158A1WPK> <@U033NMEMX26>. Let me check these! :smile:

<https://knowledge.hubspot.com/forms/can-i-auto-populate-form-fields-through-a-query-string>

Never tried Zoho CRM but we tried Hubspot Marketing Hub integration with Intercom and then later with Fresh Desk...and there were leakages at different places and workflows.. sometimes chat messages, contact enquiries through website, scheduling drips on some specific accounts based on our use cases/or where more tickers were raised...  and then the biggest challenge we faced were an alignment of the all the data and metrics we needed between marketing, sales, product, customer success and support. We then moved entirely to Hubspot with Sales Hub and Service Hub together, it might cost you a bit more but lots of additional effort later on will be saved and things will be more streamlined and automated.

Would love to be in Hubspot end-to-end but CRM has to be Zoho because of India/finance (GST, proforma etc)
90% of our revenue is realised in India

Did this in one of my prev orgs. One of the hiccups we had faced was the API usage. If the limit is not much as per the number of contacts, it would crash. It doesn't matter if you only want selective sync or full sync, the integration will go through all the contacts in both the systems.

Other than that, it was fine. Did not get much to explore as we only wanted data from Zoho to HubSpot.

<https://trackingchef.com/hubspot/style-generator-hubspot-forms/>
<https://jennamolby.com/pardot-form-style-generator/> some nice tools for form styling hubspot &amp; partdot one from <@U03MKL4JYHW> and second came i search for hubspot equivalent :slightly_smiling_face: