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  • v
    Zhenech: in fact, i don't quite understand why it still exists if perforce says that's not where they work on anyways
  • v
    tl
  • v
    in Fedora we use https://downloads.puppet.com/ and verify the GPG keys
  • v
    to annoy me :D
  • v
    (and you)
  • d
    EAB is ecosystem advisory board and where we look to pull in community to discuss things
  • v
    anyways, i'll reiterate: i don't understand what is actually happening here, and i find this communication to be poorly phrased and confusing
  • v
    is downloads.puppet.com going away ? if so, will Puppet start signing release tags on git at least ?
  • v
    anarcat: yes
  • v
    motives and effects are unclear, and i don't feel we're getting pretty good responses to our questions
  • v
    why wasn't such an EAB set up beforehand and planned this communication with them?
  • v
    this is particularly alarming in the context there's a general concern with the future of a free software version of Puppet, to make a move, it smells
  • v
    that's putting it mildly
  • v
    I'm taking this as a sign "jump ship ASAP, get your migration plans ready"
  • v
    pretty much
  • v
    not that I know what to jump to
  • v
    yeah that's the thing
  • v
    because literally everything else sucks
  • v
    what this means, effectively, is we need to rebuild a free software version of puppet
  • v
    and fork
  • v
    become a farmer
  • v
    it's not like we can just flip everything over to containers or ansible over night here
  • v
    Lumiere: clearly not Salt given Broadcom looks to be doing similar things
  • v
    bastelfreak: best option
  • v
    we've already effectively forked the debian packaging
  • v
    because upstream can't seem to agree to follow best practices on that
  • v
  • v
    the next step is to fork the rest of the fucking owl
  • v
    but farmers need to tinker around with hardware and software in order to fix their tools nowadays so.. ain't no getting out of computers that much :P
  • v
    and just keep puppet in maintenance mode, dealing with security issues and deps upgrades
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