# voxpupuli
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VoxBot
04/14/2023, 9:14 AMand the trend in Ruby 3 is that every release moves more things from standard gems to default gems and default gems to gems - v
VoxBot
04/14/2023, 9:14 AMso every .y version is yet another painful surprise - v
VoxBot
04/14/2023, 9:15 AMRuby 3.3 has another list where there are candidates: https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/19351 - v
VoxBot
04/14/2023, 9:15 AMwhy didn't it fail on Ruby 2.5/2.7 when net-ftp wasn't a stdgem nor a default gem? Or are the docs at https://stdgems.org/2.5.9/ wrong - v
VoxBot
04/14/2023, 9:15 AMit does suggest that you don't need to put it in Gemfile for 3.3, so we'll see - v
VoxBot
04/14/2023, 9:16 AMI think there it was part of stdlib, yet another way to deliver code - v
VoxBot
04/14/2023, 9:16 AMaht it wasn't even a dedicated gem - v
VoxBot
04/14/2023, 9:16 AMmakes sense - v
VoxBot
04/14/2023, 9:17 AMhttps://stdgems.org/ last sentence: "There are a few libraries that will stay non-gem default libraries, because they are very dependent on the specific Ruby version." - v
VoxBot
04/14/2023, 10:04 AMewoud: how is your foreman stuff going on? - v
VoxBot
04/14/2023, 10:24 AMbastelfreak: I at least updated our own Foreman instance and our Puppet modules are up to date again (except stdlib), so now I can finally get to implementing backups again - v
VoxBot
04/14/2023, 10:24 AM\o/ - y
Yury Bushmelev
04/14/2023, 10:59 AMI’m available for some hacking for a hour just in case there is anything 🙂 maybe I’ll try to reproduce the augeas issue with their CLI tools - b
bastelfreak
04/14/2023, 10:59 AMthat would be awesome ❤️ - v
VoxBot
04/14/2023, 11:00 AMwhat bastelfreak said :) - y
Yury Bushmelev
04/14/2023, 11:00 AMnever tried it before.. so if there is any short and easy way to look into please share 🙂 - b
bastelfreak
04/14/2023, 11:01 AMthe shortest way is usually to ask @raphink or @lutter nicely - y
Yury Bushmelev
04/14/2023, 11:01 AMhmm.. okay 🙂 - v
VoxBot
04/14/2023, 11:01 AMI think you can run Puppet in debug mode and it'll show what it ran - y
Yury Bushmelev
04/14/2023, 11:04 AMah, good idea - s
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bastelfreak
04/14/2023, 11:14 AM@Alex Fisher any chance you can revisit https://github.com/voxpupuli/modulesync/pull/260 ? - y
Yury Bushmelev
04/14/2023, 11:20 AMIIRC it was asked here already.. how can I enable Puppet debug output during the beaker test? - y
Yury Bushmelev
04/14/2023, 11:20 AMI’m a bit lazy to go into a container and do it manually 😄 - b
bastelfreak
04/14/2023, 11:21 AMI think @Robert Waffen did that recently - y
Yury Bushmelev
04/14/2023, 11:22 AMquick test with
(augtool
2 values in a non-existent sysctl file followed byset
) gives me 100% right output.. so it seems puppet does some magicsave - v
VoxBot
04/14/2023, 11:23 AMBEAKER_PUPPET_DEBUG=true IIRC🙇🏻 1 - y
Yury Bushmelev
04/14/2023, 11:31 AMno luck.. ruby gem should use libaugeas so there is no way to see the ready-to-use command - y
Yury Bushmelev
04/14/2023, 11:31 AMthough debug output is here, so env var above works - y
Yury Bushmelev
04/14/2023, 11:38 AMI really miss the puppet agent package for ubuntu 22.04 aarch64..