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    VoxBot

    02/21/2023, 2:47 PM
    but finding a good rails dev vs a good sinatra + frontend dev... rails ist definetly easier
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    VoxBot

    02/21/2023, 2:48 PM
    I have plenty of issues with front end dev, but server side frameworks are just needed these days
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    VoxBot

    02/21/2023, 2:48 PM
    and you could argue Perl-CGI is also a framework, but just very minimal
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    VoxBot

    02/21/2023, 2:49 PM
    but who wants to write perl these days
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    VoxBot

    02/21/2023, 2:51 PM
    not me
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    VoxBot

    02/21/2023, 2:51 PM
    dito :D
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    CVQuesty

    02/21/2023, 2:52 PM
    I mean, at the end of the day there’s two functions going on. One s opening files for read and acting on it and the other is making DB queries/functions. It could likely be even more light than Sinatra
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    CVQuesty

    02/21/2023, 2:53 PM
    Perl 7 is worth a look, btw
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    CVQuesty

    02/21/2023, 2:53 PM
    taking tons of hints from Python, Ruby, and even in some areas… Rust
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    VoxBot

    02/21/2023, 2:53 PM
    yes you can, but why would you want to? you can write a pure rack application but then when you end up writing the content negotation and proper status management you probably end up with sinatra anyway
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    CVQuesty

    02/21/2023, 2:54 PM
    Yeah, I suppose. How resilient is Sinatra from dependency hell on OS updates, though?
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    VoxBot

    02/21/2023, 2:55 PM
    it has a very minimal dependency tree, so I'd guess little
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    VoxBot

    02/21/2023, 2:57 PM
    but maybe there are other frameworks that suite your needs better
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    VoxBot

    02/21/2023, 3:07 PM
    heavily depends on the OS
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    VoxBot

    02/21/2023, 3:07 PM
    if you try RHEL7 with it's dead Ruby, you're lost :D
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    VoxBot

    02/21/2023, 3:07 PM
    if you try Arch Linux, you can probably install most deps from the package manager and get up2date packages
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    VoxBot

    02/21/2023, 3:15 PM
    SCLs on EL7 probably get you quite far
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    VoxBot

    02/21/2023, 3:20 PM
    with the old glibc you run into issues quite quickly
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    VoxBot

    02/21/2023, 3:20 PM
    and I don't think taht SCLs provide a newer version
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    VoxBot

    02/21/2023, 3:22 PM
    I'm not aware of any glibc issues, but I mostly started to miss newer systemd features
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    VoxBot

    02/21/2023, 3:27 PM
    just ordered vox pupuli swag and I think I ruined my etsy recommendations https://p.bastelfreak.de/PYYDBj/ :D
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    VoxBot

    02/21/2023, 3:32 PM
    lol
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    VoxBot

    02/21/2023, 3:33 PM
    bastelfreak: good.
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    VoxBot

    02/21/2023, 3:33 PM
    Lumiere: o/
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    VoxBot

    02/21/2023, 3:33 PM
    meena: o/
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    VoxBot

    02/21/2023, 3:33 PM
    ewoud: you're the last person that got one vox in the old design. new ones will look a bit different
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    VoxBot

    02/21/2023, 3:38 PM
    :)
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    VoxBot

    02/21/2023, 4:06 PM
    bastelfreak, I don't see how that's "ruined" :P
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    VoxBot

    02/21/2023, 4:06 PM
    :D
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    VoxBot

    02/21/2023, 7:09 PM
    can I get a review for https://github.com/voxpupuli/beaker-hostgenerator/pull/272
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