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  • t
    🤔 Has anyone tried stuffing puppet into 
    flatpak
    ? It seems reasonable for the depdency hell but I'm not sure if it would 100% work.
  • v
    I don't want more of that stuff, just give me good system packages
  • t
    I'll take Flatpaks over AIOs any day TBH
  • t
    I mean, unless the RH ecosystem can get all Gentoo on us with the simultaneous installs that don't suck
  • v
    I loved the parallel Rubies in Gentoo
  • v
    and at least Python in EL8 has separate modules so you can install them in parallel, just hope Ruby is converted in the same way
  • t
    Wellllllll
  • v
    EL9 right now has no modules at all (will come with RHEL 9.1) so I hope they're working on it
  • v
    You can install more then one module in rhel8 ?
  • t
    Modules aren't so much "in parallel" as "pick your poison"
  • v
    that's what I thought
  • v
    there's a python38 module which can be enabled at the same time as python36
  • t
    Modules aren't so much "in parallel" as "pick your poison"
  • v
    in that aspect software collections were better
  • t
    OK, that's an edge case because Red Hat wanted to break the rules for themselves
  • t
    Usually, you get one module
  • t
    python38
    and 
    python36
    are actually two different modules
    💯 1
  • t
    A proper python module would just be called 
    python
  • v
    yep
  • t
    And then all the RH internal stuff would die a horrible death
  • v
    I agree that SCLs were better in that regard, though it also had plenty of problems
  • t
    The Fedora proposal for modules was awesome. RH made it less awesome 😕
  • v
    says that as RH employee who doesn't work on that stuff directly, just consumes it
  • t
    It was going to be what we wanted
  • t
    Instead, we got "but mah containerz"
    😁 1
  • v
    I must admit I didn't follow the Fedora proposal
  • t
    You should check it out if you want to cry over the awesome that almost was
  • t
    I mean, if I wanted to build a container, I don't exactly need a module that may die at any random time, now do I?
  • t
    That's the other fun thing with modules, they don't follow the greater support lifecycle
  • t
    Like python3.6? WELL NOT TOMORROW BUDDY
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