# haxe-ui
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bright-gpu-74537
02/10/2023, 2:07 PM... ... ... oh man - c
clever-yak-82528
02/10/2023, 2:08 PMThere's the normal, standard Indo-European system with a singular word and then a plural formed by changing the singular - c
clever-yak-82528
02/10/2023, 2:08 PMThen another system called collective-singulative, where the plural form is the base and the singular is derived from it - c
clever-yak-82528
02/10/2023, 2:08 PMCollectives have a, well, collective meaning - c
clever-yak-82528
02/10/2023, 2:09 PMSo for example the word 'coeden' means tree, but 'coed' means something like 'forest' - c
clever-yak-82528
02/10/2023, 2:09 PMIt's also often used for animals - b
bright-gpu-74537
02/10/2023, 2:09 PMthats not a plural though, is it? - c
clever-yak-82528
02/10/2023, 2:09 PMAdar is a flock of birds, and aderyn is one single bird - b
bright-gpu-74537
02/10/2023, 2:09 PMtree, trees, forest, forests - c
clever-yak-82528
02/10/2023, 2:10 PMNo, it's specifically not a plural - f
full-journalist-82607
02/10/2023, 2:10 PMkind of nice way of thinking - it's like group's individual - f
full-journalist-82607
02/10/2023, 2:10 PMlike forest member is a tree ? - c
clever-yak-82528
02/10/2023, 2:11 PMYeah - i
icy-zebra-52882
02/10/2023, 2:11 PMIan it comes across to me as a collective plural than a regular plural - b
bright-gpu-74537
02/10/2023, 2:11 PMyeah - b
bright-gpu-74537
02/10/2023, 2:12 PMok, so would you say: There are many forests here, each forest contains many trees, trees are nice - i
icy-zebra-52882
02/10/2023, 2:12 PMlike a flock of birds, but you can still say bird or birds - b
bright-gpu-74537
02/10/2023, 2:12 PMi think "flock" is a collective noun isnt it? - b
bright-gpu-74537
02/10/2023, 2:13 PMlike "gaggle of geese", "shoal of fish", "pride of lions" - b
bright-gpu-74537
02/10/2023, 2:13 PMor better: There are many forests here, each forest contains many trees, a tree is green - c
clever-yak-82528
02/10/2023, 2:14 PMMae llawer o goedwigoedd yma; mae pob un yn cynnwys llawer o goed; mae coeden yn werdd - b
bright-gpu-74537
02/10/2023, 2:15 PMi mean... erm... im not sure what i was expecting, but i have NO way to parse that 😄 - c
clever-yak-82528
02/10/2023, 2:15 PMCoedwig is the word for forest - c
clever-yak-82528
02/10/2023, 2:15 PMPlural coedwigoedd - b
bright-gpu-74537
02/10/2023, 2:16 PMjesus, so it changed to "goedwigoedd" because... ... reasons. - c
clever-yak-82528
02/10/2023, 2:16 PMCoed is the word for trees, but it carries a collective meaning so this feels like a translation rather than something composed in welsh - b
bright-gpu-74537
02/10/2023, 2:16 PMso how do you say "tree" then? - c
clever-yak-82528
02/10/2023, 2:16 PMCoeden - b
bright-gpu-74537
02/10/2023, 2:16 PMgotcha