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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 9:49 PM
    Plus you get guaranteed supply for the future unlike Bitcoin due to demurrage
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    mx

    05/25/2023, 9:49 PM
    That`s why i love Louis, he is coming straight from outside
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 9:51 PM
    (re @louissignet : One unexplored long-term aspect of Ergo is tha...) I think most active people here know why we are here
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 9:52 PM
    (re : While being ZK specialist in Zcash grant ...) Now it makes sense why kushti is against privacy by default
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 9:53 PM
    Thanks MX I like your nickname. Reminds me of mexico 😂
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 9:53 PM
    I've been a Monero dude for a long time and privacy by default has it's benefits but also it's downsides
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    mx

    05/25/2023, 9:54 PM
    I even gave him a hint about GhostDag (KAS) in Moscow and Kushti was like eh, yes it is temporary
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 9:54 PM
    It's very hard to argue the Store-of-Value claim when you can't transparently verify the supply
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 9:54 PM
    It's very good for privacy but not very good for price accomulation
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 9:54 PM
    XMR has it's problems
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 9:54 PM
    That's why you need both types of L1's
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 9:55 PM
    I love monero for it's grassroot community, very hardcore for privacy. But that's very niche still.
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 9:56 PM
    If Ergo has trouble getting into T1 cexes, Monero even more so. Cexes/Regulators don't want to touch it even with a 10-foot pole.
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    mx

    05/25/2023, 9:56 PM
    Very cool, I love Mexico and its regulations 🙂 Kushti is a shy man but until something possesses him off totally 🙂
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 9:59 PM
    Monero mcap will always be kneecapped due to it's inability to access institutional capital. It will probably always be retail capital from power users.
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    mx

    05/25/2023, 10:00 PM
    Ergo doesn`t argue XMR capabilities, it is well aware of it, with ErgoMixer having an approach as programmable mixer on the ground on dapp level
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    mx

    05/25/2023, 10:02 PM
    You can mix any token of top of Ergo, trustlessly, including USDT
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    mx

    05/25/2023, 10:02 PM
    It is first mixer of tokens in the space
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 10:04 PM
    (re : You can mix any token of top of Ergo, tru...) If only we had an actual backed stablecoin
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    mx

    05/25/2023, 10:04 PM
    Or you can build the whole Monero appraoch on top?
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 10:05 PM
    (re @mewtoshi : If only we had an actual backed stablecoin) we can argue about if you consider USDT fully backed or not
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 10:05 PM
    but anyway, rosen has the ability to takes us to the next level
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    mx

    05/25/2023, 10:05 PM
    I know many people from USDT, you need to prove to them different things
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 10:06 PM
    (re @Pulsarzz : we can argue about if you consider USDT fully ...) I don't think it's fully backed but it's not algorithmic
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 10:06 PM
    (re : Ergo doesn`t argue XMR capabilities, it i...) Exactly. We need transparent chains to lure regulators into thinking they can monitor it while at the same time building tech to make it easy to obfuscate stuff.
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 10:06 PM
    funny thing is it doesn't even matter if it is or not
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 10:06 PM
    once you reach critical mass.. eh
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    mx

    05/25/2023, 10:06 PM
    Fucking brothers in arms in the channel suddenly
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 10:06 PM
    Like UST?
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    mattam

    05/25/2023, 10:07 PM
    Won't rosen only help to the extent that people provide liquidity?
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