# 🗣│general
- m
mx
05/25/2023, 9:34 PMThey went into lending war with FTX additionally, so now redefining and rebuilding but base is there - m
mx
05/25/2023, 9:35 PMI am trying to be as less influent as i can with comments 🙂 - t
thecolj
05/25/2023, 9:36 PMheh - m
mx
05/25/2023, 9:36 PMErgo`s smart contracts research was rejected by Waves, simply talking 🙂 - t
thecolj
05/25/2023, 9:36 PMtbh scala is a nightmare and i suspect ergo would have more contributors if it was made in a more normal language - t
thecolj
05/25/2023, 9:37 PM(re @mewtoshi : tbh scala is a nightmare and i suspect ergo wo...) oh boy here comes the java talk - t
thecolj
05/25/2023, 9:37 PM - m
mx
05/25/2023, 9:37 PMNot true in banking sector - t
thecolj
05/25/2023, 9:38 PMtbh in this day and age if a new client was developed it should be in rust - t
thecolj
05/25/2023, 9:38 PM(re @Pulsarzz : tbh in this day and age if a new client was de...) no - m
mx
05/25/2023, 9:39 PMwell there is lots of foundation funds(while not part of it anymore) being put towards it - m
mx
05/25/2023, 9:39 PMOracles 2.0 and @greenhat developments - t
thecolj
05/25/2023, 9:40 PMyeah sigma-rust has done a lot for our ecosystem - m
mx
05/25/2023, 9:40 PMI was core member of Ergo foundation for first few years - t
thecolj
05/25/2023, 9:40 PMAre you the guy who quit when mainnet launched because of health issues - m
mx
05/25/2023, 9:42 PMNo, I was there, some scala developers team from Moscow quit at launch, leaving Kushti alone to learn and develop like Satoshi - m
mx
05/25/2023, 9:42 PMKushti is literally like Satoshi team - m
mx
05/25/2023, 9:43 PMHe then learned about GPU`s thanks to @BigEvilSoloMiner 🙂 - m
mx
05/25/2023, 9:44 PMNow he needs to take care of networking etc - m
mx
05/25/2023, 9:44 PMWhile being ZK specialist in Zcash grant board - m
mx
05/25/2023, 9:45 PMI was actually one of the cofounders in Berlin 🙂 - m
mx
05/25/2023, 9:46 PMFounding all testnet two years dev - m
mx
05/25/2023, 9:47 PMZooko is cool, he was in Moscow 🙂 - m
mx
05/25/2023, 9:47 PMBlake founders can`t be scammers - m
mx
05/25/2023, 9:48 PMNot proved this way, so far - t
thecolj
05/25/2023, 9:48 PMOne unexplored long-term aspect of Ergo is that PoW chains will provide enery grid stability - t
thecolj
05/25/2023, 9:49 PMErgo is legit the best chains on this category. GPU intial capital costs are smaller than getting ASICs - k
koutelier
05/25/2023, 9:49 PMI know so little history about ergo