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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 10:07 PM
    (re : Won't rosen only help to the extent t...) of course, notice I said ability
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 10:07 PM
    (re @mewtoshi : Zcash??? That scam coin? Disappointing) Nah, zk-SNARKS came from there. That's legit technlogy. Monero is discussing how to implement it. Even flawed models can produce net-net good things.
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    mx

    05/25/2023, 10:07 PM
    My man, not efficient not working
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 10:08 PM
    (re @mewtoshi : Like UST?) I was talking about USDT backing
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 10:08 PM
    Monero next upgrade 'Seraphis' is legit leaving room in the table for future integration with zk-SNARK derived tech. https://github.com/monero-project/research-lab/issues/100
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 10:08 PM
    (re @louissignet : Nah, zk-SNARKS came from there. That's legit t...) Sure, legit tech maybe but the coin itself has a pretty scammy history and they have considered making holes in the privacy for "law enforcement" (I don't support crimes but govs like to overreach on privacy)
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 10:09 PM
    it's slow now but has way better anonimity set than ring signatures can ever provide.
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    mx

    05/25/2023, 10:11 PM
    I wonder if next fork would bring these hardcore ring sigs for default, what community would say 🙂
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 10:11 PM
    Next fork they are just increasing the ring size to like 64 due to some efficiency gains they would be about the same size (kb-wise) to the current 16 ring size
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 10:12 PM
    But they are refactoring that part to be modular in case they wan't to switch it to something better.
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 10:14 PM
    Anyway privacy on L2 I think it's a better model price-wise because it allows for institutional money to flow into L1
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 10:15 PM
    (re @louissignet : Anyway privacy on L2 I think it's a better mod...) agree
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 10:15 PM
    and you can do L1 -> L2 -> L1 anyway
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 10:16 PM
    as long as it has the same security guarantees as the L1 imo
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    mx

    05/25/2023, 10:17 PM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWJYaep-0sg▾

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    cafebedouin

    05/25/2023, 10:20 PM
    I just came across mention of Stably, claiming to be first stablecoin on BTC. Anyone know anything about it?
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    mx

    05/25/2023, 10:25 PM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nji5zvkuuFg▾

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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 10:25 PM
    (re : I just came across mention of St...) Isn't that just a BRC-20?
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 10:26 PM
    I still find it funny how BRC-20 is even a thing now
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    mx

    05/25/2023, 10:27 PM
    It is not really a sustained standard 🙂
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    mx

    05/25/2023, 10:31 PM
    Smells like teen spirit 🙂
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    cafebedouin

    05/25/2023, 10:35 PM
    Seems so. I don't follow any other chains besides Ergo, so I end up asking dumb questions.
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    mx

    05/25/2023, 10:36 PM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YOKU4eJdNs▾

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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 10:37 PM
    (re : Seems so. I don't follow any oth...) Your question isn't what's dumb here, BRC-20 is what's dumb
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 10:37 PM
    I still don't get the why
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 10:37 PM
    The btc nft's I could somewhat understand
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 10:38 PM
    But tokens?
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 10:39 PM
    BRC-20 was an attack coordinated by BSVers
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    thecolj

    05/25/2023, 10:40 PM
    That's why theres no real community behind it
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    mx

    05/25/2023, 10:40 PM
    I would still point you to above video to not go into worthless discussion 🙂
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