You might mean how soon will you feel a sense of control. Correct me if wrong, please.
At early stages, it’s typical to be pushing uphill if you’re joining an early stage startup. If anything’s been built at all, it will usually be crap, or you might have nothing at all and have to build things from scratch. And meanwhile you have little or no leverage.
It also depends on what you’re trying to build. If you’re outsourcing a lot, it will go much quicker than if you’re building a team, especially a large one. Any experience in early stage is valuable, because you’ll know how to do it better and faster in the future. Also, you’ll be better equipped to guide others.
When I was building my team a NerdWallet, I built everything from scratch, because I ran content autonomously — the VP of marketing and I were peers and we both served on the company’s exec team. I did all of my own hiring and didn’t outsource anything, so I thought about building in stages.
At early stage, startups don’t necessarily have enough draw for the best talent, so I didn’t want to hire managers, because I knew that their ceiling would limit who’d be willing to report to them. So I hired about 20 people before we were able to produce enough quality and show enough momentum and investment to start drawing the caliber of managers I wanted. That took 14 months. Till then, I managed everyone. It was as hard as shit, but holding out was one of the best things I did early on — it later helped give us much stronger leverage.
Boiled down: Say you hire a C+ or B- manager. No A level writer or other IC will want to work for them for long. You’ve capped yourself. The stronger managers you hire, the better the quality of ICs you can draw and the longer they’ll stick. Those are competitive advantages.
How I realized this: I was a high-performing IC for many years, with zero interest in managing. I had my pick of jobs, so why would I ever agree to work for a shitty manager? The best ICs always have choices.
At early stage, the only reason I joined NerdWallet was I was able to negotiate a big enough role, with enough scope and equity to make it worth my while. But that’s not something we could offer all hires. That’s important to remember for hires: Always consider why they’d join and why they’d stick. Everyone isn’t incentivized by the same things.