Even with minions the mob rule is only a tie breaker.

I'm agreeing with you

I do not think so. I am of the opinion that targets are chosen at the start of an enemy phase during a choose target step. Movement, attacks, etc. use then this target. As far as I understand you think that targets are re-evaluated for each action.

Not in the case of mob targeting. Otherwise you would never utilize mob rules

The way it works is that you move your minis to the final destination based on who ever they are targeting. Then you perform the mob attack. When you perform the mob attack, if there is a tie between 2 adjacent characters, you would choose the one where mobbing happens.

Otherwise, your boss would attack the original target they moved adjacent to

I do not follow that reasoning. The rule book states: Minions do not share a target with the Encounter. Instead, they will target the closest Oathsworn, Ally or any character friendly to the Oathsworn that is in their Line of Sight. If two targets are equally distant and the minion has the Mob keyword, it will target the closest enemy who is already adjacent to another minion with the Mob keyword.

For me that clearly indicates that targeting steps are performed before the movement and are not re-evaluated for attacks etc.

Your right, it isn't. I was trying to explain it a different way and that clearly didn't help

In the case of Mutilate card, how do you suppose you'll handle mob keywording?

We played Mutilate like this: 1) Berserkers choose A as a target 2) Berserkers move adjacent to A 3) All other scar tribe move to their (default) targets (B,B,C). Mob rule resolves ties for equally distant targets. 4) Scar tribe members attack their targets. 5) Scar tribe members move away from their targets.

Sounds like you've got it and I just convoluted the conversation.

Chapter 4 has been an interesting thing to observe how people handle it, so it is something that I take notes on for future designs

So, we agree that berserker targeting is not changed?

Let's assume A = Warden and B = Cur.

According to Mutilate, the Berserker would move towards the Warden, correct? It would land in the Northern space above him. Since the Chieftain is already adjacent to the Cur, it wouldn't need to move.

Agreed.

What do you make of the mob rule for the Berserker in this case?

No use of mob rule as targets have been already chosen.

Good to know. Thanks.

Is that how it was intended?

Again, I'm just gathering info on how people perceive the rules so we can be more clear in the future

By the method you play with the Berserkers essentially wouldn't have the mob keywording, so that's an interesting observation

They do from the perspective of the other Scar Tribe ganging up on their target though, so I suppose I shouldn't word it like that

For future design I think it would be great either to: 1. Present the choose the target step independent of any actions on the card to clarify that the target is valid for all further steps on the encounter card 2. Include choose target steps with each action. That would allow for re-targeting and make use of the mob rule more often. However, it would be strange fluff-wise as monsters might storm towards an enemy and then target someone else. Maybe a vicious bluff 🙂

The Scar Tribe are interesting because they've got a sort of hybrid AI (mobbing) compared to the single boss AIs. This is probably one of the biggest areas of clarification that needs to be had in the game, aside from breaking multiple HP dice at once haha.

I appreciate you talking through that with me so I can get your perspective on things. Keep playing it the way you're doing.

Thanks a lot for taking your time. It's great to hear that targeting in future encounters might be clearer. My group has progressed only to chaper 5 atm. Will keep pestering you, if something else comes up 🙂

Can you take a look at the two questions that I posted in chaper 5?

Here is the AI targeting sheet that my group is using. Maybe this is of help.