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# microsoft-fslogixs
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Leee Jeffries
02/06/2020, 4:39 PMHey Mike, the challenge you have is storage related. Is it shared storage? If so that means raw device mappings in VMware it guest iScsi but either way, it means no snapshots. This means Veeam will need an agent deployed or you replicate your files to a third location and then backup using Veeam.
Leee Jeffries
02/06/2020, 4:40 PMIf you have a single SAN or Storage location SOFS probably isn't necessary. Just a standard Failover Cluster with CA enabled on the share.
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Mike Driest
02/06/2020, 4:41 PMWe're in the process of putting a recommendation together for the customer. Today the VMs have vmdks in the VMware datastores so no RDM.
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Leee Jeffries
02/06/2020, 4:42 PMLarge size client or small?
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Mike Driest
02/06/2020, 4:42 PMit's a Win10 Horizon View VDI Pilot 50-250 users, eventually wants to scale to 5000 users
Mike Driest
02/06/2020, 4:45 PMAlso the VDI environment has a Dell VxFlex OS vSAN - not sure how much storage is available there. The other VMware clusters use a few different IBM SANs
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Leee Jeffries
02/06/2020, 4:46 PMOkay. If you can supply a physical storage device that can handle the IOPS then I recommend a failover cluster. If you need to distribute the load a d scale you'll want SOFS. SOFS doesn't require RDM and can use vmdk instead. It does the storage replication between nodes for you though so backups can be inconsistent across nodes. It's tricky.
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Mike Driest
02/06/2020, 4:47 PMWith the SOFS do you deploy Veeam agents that are MS cluster aware?
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Leee Jeffries
02/06/2020, 4:47 PMLooks like you'll be going with SOFS. In that scenario I'd recommend SOFS with a single node replication to a secondary location using bvckup, then back this up with Veeam. It does mean you require a bucket load of storage.
Leee Jeffries
02/06/2020, 4:48 PMSee previous comment. The veamm agents can backup the data using VSS but you're never guaranteed a consistent backup due to how the load is distributed. I find the best way is the above. Bvckup provides block level replication btw...
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Mike Driest
02/06/2020, 4:50 PMGotcha and thank you! - Customer has OSTs & OneDrive in the Profile Container today. If you were to split the profile & outlook containers out to avoid backing up the OSTs and OneDrive in the Outlook Container (to save on storage) would you need to add more nodes or would you only pick the profile share in Veeam or Bvckup?
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Bronson Magnan
02/06/2020, 6:46 PMSo I think System Center DPM 2019 UR1 can handle this type of backup now. It just came out so I have not tested, but the feature for backing up files on CSVFS over REFS is there now.
Bronson Magnan
02/06/2020, 6:47 PMAlso to work around this issue, I made a project to backup FSLogix profile disks as a file hierarchy, and clean temp files, defrag, optimize, and shrink the vhds. The backup is much smaller because it ignores the appdata\local and appdata\locallow folders. https://github.com/BronsonMagnan/FSLogixBackup
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Leee Jeffries
02/06/2020, 7:55 PMNice one Bronson, I wrote something very similar for a project. Copy the vhd contents to a file server OOH. Nice to see we're on the same page.
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Mike Driest
02/06/2020, 8:50 PMThank you Leee and Bronson!
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Leee Jeffries
02/06/2020, 10:03 PMYou are so welcome Mike, anytime.
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Bronson Magnan
02/06/2020, 10:44 PM@Leee Jeffries Lee I actually wanted to use your script, and it was the inspiration, but because it was not on Github with a License, I had to rebuild from scratch. There were some other things I wanted to accomplish as well, like being agnostic to samAccountName-SID ordering in the paths , cleaning temp files, doing maintenance on the file system and vhd, etc.
Bronson Magnan
02/06/2020, 10:45 PM@Mike Driest you are most welcome, please let me know if you have an questions or feedback with the project.
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Leee Jeffries
02/06/2020, 11:19 PM@Bronson Magnanyou should have reached out man, I would have been happy to pass you a copy. No worries though, yours is better and well thought out.
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