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k
That would be my approach if doing manual install. However I know that automation is usually the way to do it in Azure, not that I have tried it
r
That's really your best option unless you have MSP type software. (ScreenConnect/etc)
n
That's what I figured. Some of the guys here were concerned with installing base apps via RDP, leaving profiles, etc. I wrote a script at my last place to clean the profiles up, so I'm cool with just using RDP since Azure is lame as fuck and has no console access.
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k
What is the concern installing via RDP? That's what I have been doing most of the time I worked with terminal server/VDI
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n
I honestly don't even recall. The one guy's concern may have actually been the profile relationship with the install via RDP. Never really was a concern for me.
Everyone's used to VMware console installs here. That's how it has always been done.
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r
Aside from some weird old ass legacy apps, installing in RDP is generally fine
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k
I have never come across an app that wouldn't install in an RDP session
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n
Thankfully, since this is just the base image, we're only really talking the VDA, CWA, and CrowdStrike.
SCCM can handle the rest. MCS/Persistent, FWIW.
r
same, but I have installed apps in an RDP session that then freaked the fuck out during multi-user VDA sessions
k
Hmm...I must have been lucky then, I have never seen that
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n
Come back to the dark side, Kasper
k
Well, now it's not even a concern anymore, I install everything via Intune ๐Ÿ˜„
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Do you still have cookies?
n
My wife and daughter made cupcakes yesterday, so close enough?
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r
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n
and I hope they are not keeping track of the current count
m
For the profile stuff you can use delprof2 by Helge: https://helgeklein.com/free-tools/delprof2-user-profile-deletion-tool/ You can use Custom Image Template in AVD to create an Image. There you can do customs scripts which, eg installing apps automatically. But itโ€™s more a workaround than an software distribution :)
n
That was my backup plan. I've been just using this one liner in PS:
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Get-CimInstance -Class Win32_UserProfile | Where { $_.LocalPath.split('\')[-1] -eq "$Env:UserName" } | Remove-CimInstance | Out-Null
I haven't used del2prof since... 2005? Been a while.
r
I have found this the biggest downside of images in Azure... I want a console to connect to a desktop, not remote into it. Even if you can clean up the profile, I'm messing with a desktop that I wanted to be pristine to start with. (good reminder that I need to nudge the image management service PM, I want that cross platform support so I can build them properly and then move the up into the cloud)
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m
@Rob Beekmans maybe you can use Citrix Image Portability Service ๐Ÿ˜„ (SCNR)
s
Is this for one off builds Nick? or are you looking to automate the process? delprof2 has issues with server 2022, not sure how often those issues pop up, but he has a disclaimer on his site.
n
Just for the master image build. I wasn't going to use delprof2 since my PS one liner works as intended.
That said, this is for W10. We're going to S19 MS soon, though.
s
what do you do for existing MCS master builds? Or just manual right now?
n
All manual, and for our existing images, we're doing it all via VMware console logged in as the local administrator account.
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s
i'd probably go the terraform route to automate the process for this one. I did a few blogs on using Packer for this, but i think terraform would play nicer with building with MCS
n
I know, I know... it was like this when I got here. ๐Ÿ˜„
m
@Steve Noel which disclaimer on Helges Website are you refereing to? The one with the UWP Apps? "_2018-10-09: Delprof2 has issues with UWP apps on Windows 10. Why? Windows 10 stores per-user settings in per-machine database files that are exclusively locked (almost?) all of the time. I consider this a design flaw on the part of Microsoft and I am not going to waste my time trying to work around that._"
s
yes, pretty sure that was it, thought I read somewhere that server 2022 was affected as well.
j
RDP for Azure images as well, that is until I read all the goodness in Steveโ€™s blogs ๐Ÿ™‚
n
For us, I think the Trusted Launch aspect of W11 would be a problem for automation.
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j
not to hijack the thread but are you doing just AD joined or dabbling with any azureAD/hybrid joined vdas as well?
n
These are hybrid joined VDAs, yes.
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