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hbui

05/19/2022, 6:46 PM

I think you'd need to give us a mock up of the code you want to write for other advice

Les Shiner

05/19/2022, 8:36 PM

There has to be a better way for managing thousands of agents in a Puppet Bolt inventory file than manually entering them in under target: right?

vchepkov

05/19/2022, 8:38 PM

puppetdb ?

vchepkov

05/19/2022, 8:39 PM

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groups:
  - name: linux
    targets:
      - _plugin: puppetdb
        query: 'inventory[certname] { facts.kernel = "Linux" }'
  - name: windows
    targets:
      - _plugin: puppetdb
        query: 'inventory[certname] { facts.kernel = "windows" }'

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vchepkov

05/19/2022, 8:40 PM

question is better suited for #C7GP57T50

Les Shiner

05/19/2022, 8:40 PM

ooooo thank you @vchepkov!

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natemccurdy

05/19/2022, 8:42 PM

Generally speaking, yes.. the better way is with inventory plugins.

Dr Bunsen Honeydew

05/19/2022, 8:45 PM

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bastelfreak

05/20/2022, 6:45 AM

anybody here knows something about the pdk/litmus test setup in Puppetlabs modules? https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppetlabs-lvm/pull/270 I'm not sure how to enable the latest pdk-templates/ci-setup

bastelfreak

05/20/2022, 6:45 AM

anybody here knows something about the pdk/litmus test setup in Puppetlabs modules? https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppetlabs-lvm/pull/270 I'm not sure how to enable the latest pdk-templates/ci-setup

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05/20/2022, 9:07 AM

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Jason LoCascio

05/20/2022, 10:46 AM

Where does the "message" in the .yaml files get shown, please ? I can't see it when papply is run, and looking in the puppet logfiles on the puppet server is a dead end.

Jason LoCascio

05/20/2022, 10:47 AM

Where does the "message" in the .yaml files get shown, please ? I can't see it when papply is run, and looking in the puppet logfiles on the puppet server is a dead end.

Krizz

05/20/2022, 11:23 AM

What is the best way to start the puppet-agent service (as windows-service) permanently in noop-mode on Windows? If you set noop = true in puppet.conf, you can't start "puppet agent -t" without --no-noop to make changes

Krizz

05/20/2022, 11:34 AM

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05/20/2022, 12:38 PM

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05/20/2022, 1:14 PM

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ssaini

05/20/2022, 1:27 PM

Hi all, On a range different hosts we get a variation in the speed of puppet runs. Example: Quick (expected) Run on host1

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Notice: Applied catalog in 3.34 seconds
Application:
         Run mode: agent
   Initial environment: production
   Converged environment: saini_v2
Changes:
Events:
Resources:
            Total: 353
Time:
       Filebucket: 0.00
        File line: 0.00
         Schedule: 0.00
      Concat file: 0.00
      Ini setting: 0.00
            Group: 0.00
            Mount: 0.00
             User: 0.00
   Concat fragment: 0.00
           Anchor: 0.00
          Yumrepo: 0.00
   Ssh authorized key: 0.00
   Postgresql conf: 0.01
   Kernel parameter: 0.01
   Postgresql conn validator: 0.01
             Cron: 0.01
          Package: 0.09
          Service: 0.13
   Convert catalog: 0.29
   Node retrieval: 0.44
     Startup time: 0.54
             File: 0.83
             Exec: 0.96
         Last run: 1653048960
   Fact generation: 3.01
   Transaction evaluation: 3.30
   Catalog application: 3.34
      Plugin sync: 30.85
   Config retrieval: 7.95
            Total: 46.95
Version:
           Config: 1653048949
           Puppet: 6.26.0

real	1m17.029s
user	0m8.951s
sys	0m1.359s

a Slow run (same host - host1)

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Notice: Applied catalog in 61.24 seconds
Application:
         Run mode: agent
   Initial environment: production
   Converged environment: saini_v2
Changes:
Events:
Resources:
            Total: 353
Time:
       Filebucket: 0.00
        File line: 0.00
         Schedule: 0.00
      Concat file: 0.00
      Ini setting: 0.00
   Concat fragment: 0.00
            Group: 0.00
           Anchor: 0.00
            Mount: 0.00
          Yumrepo: 0.00
   Ssh authorized key: 0.00
             User: 0.00
   Postgresql conf: 0.01
   Kernel parameter: 0.01
   Postgresql conn validator: 0.02
             Cron: 0.03
          Package: 0.09
          Service: 0.13
   Convert catalog: 0.32
     Startup time: 0.61
             Exec: 1.08
         Last run: 1653050828
   Fact generation: 3.19
   Config retrieval: 47.89
             File: 58.43
   Transaction evaluation: 61.13
   Catalog application: 61.24
      Plugin sync: 80.46
            Total: 211.22
Version:
           Config: 1653050759
           Puppet: 6.26.0

real	4m4.999s
user	0m8.959s
sys	0m1.384s

The slow run timings range widely from 60 to 500 seconds on various hosts. These are the areas where timings are taking the longest, can I get some pointers on where these areas I should look at to debug further?

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Config retrieval: 47.89
File: 58.43
Transaction evaluation: 61.13
Catalog application: 61.24
Plugin sync: 80.46

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05/20/2022, 1:52 PM

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ripienaar

05/20/2022, 3:37 PM

I don’t often cross post things here but some of yous might find this handy, its a little tool to build CLIs that wrap shell scripts, long commands, difficult to remember or discover commands into a nice single UI. It’s super early days, keen to hear feedback. There’s a video introducing it linked on the readme https://github.com/choria-io/appbuilder#readme

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05/20/2022, 4:12 PM

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CryptoSaiyan

05/20/2022, 4:17 PM

I am new in puppet but I was wondering what does it mean by serverless or masterless setup? Having a hard time finding documentation pertaining to it.

David Sandilands

05/20/2022, 4:18 PM

https://puppet.com/docs/puppet/6/glossary.html#serverless Theres also an old document in best practice to discuss when its used https://github.com/puppetlabs/best-practices/blob/master/when-to-use-serverless.md

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05/20/2022, 10:44 PM

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Lumiere

05/20/2022, 10:46 PM

look into puppet lookup --explain

hbui

05/20/2022, 10:54 PM

in module hiera is for module default data not site specific data and will happen automatically as part of parameter lookups

hbui

05/20/2022, 10:55 PM

in module hiera is for module default data not site specific data and lookups there will happen automatically as part of parameter lookups if nothing was found in the hierarchy for the environment

Yehuda Katz

05/22/2022, 3:18 AM

I understand about the module layer - the problem with it is that it requires forking a module to customize it. It would be great if we could replicate the entire module layer in a separate repository.

Yehuda Katz

05/22/2022, 4:43 PM

Mainly to force keeping the yaml files organized