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  • c

    CVQuesty

    08/14/2023, 1:21 PM
    what about hsitorical logs for that node name? Is there anything in puppetserver, puppetdb, or console logs that show that node coming out and going back in?
  • v

    vchepkov

    08/14/2023, 1:22 PM
    Nothing that I was able to find. It's clear a PE or puppetserver bug, but how to catch/reproduce it I have no idea
  • v

    vchepkov

    08/14/2023, 1:22 PM
    I might need to add something to fail catalog if too few resources
  • c

    CVQuesty

    08/14/2023, 1:24 PM
    you know what this "feels" like? Sometimes when running a Bolt query consecutively, my node numbers/names ,etc. change. All I have to do is run that command again, and I get the ones it "missed". I wonder if this is similar, like something over pxp isn't getting there before some timeout, and you don't get the value back, but next run you do?
  • v

    vchepkov

    08/14/2023, 1:26 PM
    well puppedb here is a bystander, no classes applied, so query is correct
  • v

    vchepkov

    08/14/2023, 1:26 PM
    but why it gets an empty catalog - that's a mistery
  • c

    CVQuesty

    08/14/2023, 1:26 PM
    no data returned?
  • v

    vchepkov

    08/14/2023, 1:26 PM
    at least PE agent classes should be included, right?
  • c

    CVQuesty

    08/14/2023, 1:27 PM
    unless the classifier is the side the timeout happens
  • v

    vchepkov

    08/14/2023, 1:28 PM
    well, I do think it's classifier glitch, but opening support ticket will lead nowhere, unless I can reproduce the problem
  • c

    CVQuesty

    08/14/2023, 1:30 PM
    that's like the mysterious oil leak no one can find. Seems like sometimes there isn't as big/long a run, so it runs fine. Might be when tehre are a lot of changes, so it can't get to everything within a timeout. I'm lookiing for one right now
  • c

    CVQuesty

    08/14/2023, 1:32 PM
    How long is your Puppet run generally, @vchepkov?
  • v

    vchepkov

    08/14/2023, 1:33 PM
    ~30 seconds or so
  • v

    vchepkov

    08/14/2023, 1:34 PM
    ~12 when issue happens
  • c

    CVQuesty

    08/14/2023, 1:36 PM
    well that wouldn't be it. services default timeout is 30s as is the various http and such timeouts
  • c

    CVQuesty

    08/14/2023, 1:37 PM
    It would take an engineer to tell us how they do that. I mean, if you've got an open HTTP/HTTPS session and the timeout is reached, do they just slam shut the connect, send a FIN, and say "have a nice day"? Do they allow the session to complete since the 3-way has happened and data is on the move? So many questions.
  • c

    CVQuesty

    08/14/2023, 1:38 PM
    that's a real "head scratcher". Keep us posted if you find anything
  • c

    csharpsteen

    08/14/2023, 1:40 PM
    Timeouts are errors and classification errors are fatal to catalog compilation.
  • c

    CVQuesty

    08/14/2023, 1:41 PM
    yeah, but a node just disappearing from classification until next run is ... well, weird.
  • v

    vchepkov

    08/14/2023, 1:43 PM
    yep, no errors, still production environment - no resources
  • v

    vchepkov

    08/14/2023, 1:43 PM
    that's it
  • c

    CVQuesty

    08/14/2023, 1:44 PM
    and I wouldn't expect a "no changes" run to look like that either
  • k

    Kevin Cameron

    08/14/2023, 2:18 PM
    Hello there! I have an environment that is managed by Puppet 5.5 and the Puppet CA has expired. Is this the best process to follow: https://www.puppet.com/docs/puppet/5.5/ssl_regenerate_certificates.html#regenerate_ca_and_all_certificates I assume I have no choice but to visit each server that has an agent ? Thanks in advance for any feedback!
  • l

    Lumiere

    08/14/2023, 2:19 PM
    if it's already expired, that's likely easiest
  • b

    bastelfreak

    08/14/2023, 2:19 PM
    yes
  • l

    Lumiere

    08/14/2023, 2:19 PM
    if it hadn't expired you'd have been able to extend the CA and update the ca.pem
  • l

    Lumiere

    08/14/2023, 2:20 PM
    but once it expires puppet gets all sorts of annoyed about it
  • b

    bastelfreak

    08/14/2023, 2:20 PM
    yep
  • b

    bastelfreak

    08/14/2023, 2:20 PM
    time to setup bolt!
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