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    thermobaric_moose

    09/06/2022, 12:49 AM
    Its probably me but i can run snappyHexMesh but once my pisoFoam is done running i get a cell mismatch error
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    Zino

    09/06/2022, 1:37 AM
    Perfect - could you provide the relevant part of the error message?
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    Zino

    09/19/2022, 1:53 AM
    Hi everyone, I've been reading up on the kOmegaSST model, and I can't find the justification for the modification of the sigma_k1 coefficient. Menter's paper just basically says "change 0.5 to 0.85 and you're good" but I want to know where that comes from.
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    Zino

    09/19/2022, 1:54 AM
    I can't actually seem to find it explicitly stated anywhere
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    Zino

    09/19/2022, 1:55 AM
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    Zino

    09/19/2022, 1:55 AM
    That guy
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    Lookid

    09/19/2022, 5:56 AM
    I dont know the source, but it was likely tweaked to better fit some experimental data right? Something with k. Not sure if it's needed to dig deeper, most (all?) of these coeff are empirical
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    Zino

    09/19/2022, 6:04 AM
    Yeah that was my suspicion. The problem and the reason I'm looking into it, is because I want to replicate a paper where someone modified the constants for kOmega. I wanted to then translate that modification to the SST model.
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    Zino

    09/19/2022, 6:05 AM
    e.g. if you change sigma_k1 in the baseline model from 1 to 2 for instance, how should sigma_k1 in the SST model change
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    Zino

    09/19/2022, 6:05 AM
    I was hoping there was some relation that I could use to be consistent
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    Zino

    09/19/2022, 6:06 AM
    But if that relation doesn't exist, I might just have to not modify sigma_k
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    Lookid

    09/19/2022, 6:41 AM
    the choice feels very random, see this for example
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    Lookid

    09/19/2022, 6:41 AM
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    Lookid

    09/19/2022, 6:42 AM
    everyone seems to root for his own coefficients
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    Lookid

    09/19/2022, 6:42 AM
    https://reports.nlr.nl/server/api/core/bitstreams/10aa179d-7cde-422c-9f13-c203a60c536c/content
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    Zino

    09/19/2022, 7:08 AM
    this report is quite helpful, thanks
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    Zino

    09/19/2022, 7:32 AM
    Yep, extremely random....
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    Zino

    09/19/2022, 7:33 AM
    Well, I've seen quite a few people say the results aren't very sensitive to it, so guess I can probably keep it at 0.85 and be safely within the range of 0.3 to 1
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    Zino

    09/19/2022, 7:36 AM
    "Wait, it's all just made up arbitrary coefficients?"
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    Zino

    09/19/2022, 7:36 AM
    "Always has been"
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    Zino

    09/19/2022, 7:36 AM
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    otaolafr

    09/19/2022, 7:52 AM
    https://tenor.com/view/i-feel-you-suits-i-feel-you-bro-gif-5220319
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    kandelabr

    09/19/2022, 8:00 AM
    but that's good news, actually, right?
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    kandelabr

    09/19/2022, 8:01 AM
    no major screwup (on account of that coefficient, at least)
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    Zino

    09/19/2022, 8:03 AM
    Yeah guess it depends how you look at it
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    Zino

    09/19/2022, 8:05 AM
    But clearly it must do something, otherwise what's the point in changing it between baseline and SST
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    Zino

    09/19/2022, 8:06 AM
    Unless menter just happened to wake up on a different side of the bed, there must be something about the modification to the eddy viscosity that made the change to the Schmidt number a good idea
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    Zino

    09/19/2022, 8:07 AM
    Eh, for now I'll leave as is and will just do a sensitivity study down the track
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    Lookid

    09/19/2022, 8:33 AM
    the modification of other terms may have changed things that can be re-calibrated thanks to this (these) coeffs
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    Zino

    09/19/2022, 8:42 AM
    Going from baseline to SST, the only thin that seems to change (other than Schmidt number) is the formulation of the eddy viscosity, where rather than k/w its ak/max(aw, f2*Om)
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