Yes, alpine has very good LoB characteristics.

And isn't quite as bonkers are https://hyperscript.org

but if you want to be a true aristocrat at castle htmx, u need to use hyperscript

I'm just yer average prole 😛

(for reference re: castle htmx: )

Anybody have experience w/ socket.io and web services who can help @User out?

lol this casle htmx seems like a nice place! 😛

does htmx have a graphql client?

just kidding

code on demand is also a REST principle... without it there would not be htmx or hyperscript

@User I put out the bat signal on twitter, but if we don't hear from anyone in a few hours I'll take a look at what you are trying to do.

I don't know LISP... but I do know a beautiful thing when I see it 👏

I'm in the same boat, although being 35. Started with hacking Perl and PHP. I remember building tons of stuff in relatively short time. Then web 2.0/.5 came and somehow everybody thought that reinventing hypermedia in JS was a good idea - myself included. The added complexity is totally insane. New languages, frameworks, build tools etc. Implement routing, session handling, auth, caching etc. all by yourself - while it's already there in HTTP and hypermedia. When I discovered htmx, I got reminded of the good ol' days, enriched with modern ways of fetching partial HTML for updating only parts of the page. It's what got SPAs initially the hype. Stateful became popular - on a stateless medium! And that's what I think is the reason why especially "older" people might be interested in htmx: It feels like a release from a bloated, unstable and complex ecosystem.

Oops, this became a blog post. 😅

That was really helpful, although ironically, it made me realize that

source

is turned into

HX-Trigger

, but that I had been passing a bad variable.

I noticed that when I call a form's submit() method from javascript, it seems to skip the

htmx

handlers. Is there a way to fake submit a form that the

htmx

markup would get executed?

To answer myself, you can't use

.submit()

and call htmx, you need to use a

htmx.trigger(form, "submit")

Yep, deeply annoying aspect of the DOM

.click() does work though 😑

Hi. Did anybody tried to build a mobile app with htmx? I was thinking of a scenario where I would build a HTML page, wrap it in a Cordova/Capacitor shell and use htmx to get the bits of HTML with data.

don't see why it shouldn't work fine, but there is also this if you want a hypermedia approach to building mobile apps: https://hyperview.org/

inspired by intercooler.js (which they used for their web app)

Yeah. I saw that. I find HXML interesting but not as appealing as HTML.

if HTML5 is enough, htmx should help

I'll take a shot at it.

Heard about htmx on @late-diamond-81670 's talk python - good one! Wondering if anyone knows of how to get PyCharm (or webstorm) to be happy with the underscore as an attribute? Or all the hx- attributes?

See the link "Add hx-get to custom html attributes" bellow the message? Just click on it.

Unfortunately, without a plugin or disabling this kind of message system-wide, there's no other way.

Thank you. to myself: slow down and read.

hi guys,