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  • g
    if you use cookies for client side state, you're probably in violation of GDPR
  • m
    we are all having fun here
  • i
    I hope I'm not giving off the wrong impression here. Just general discussion. I've dived deep into Phoenix LiveView and I think it's full of false promises. As for cookies violating GDPR that's also false. You can use them if it's essential to your service or if they agree but local storage also falls under the same law.
  • g
    'essential to your service' is a pretty small set of functionalities.
  • g
    i just don't see how liveview and htmx are very different. the only principle difference is the transport protocol.
  • m
    does liveview have triggers like htmx (I've never used it or looked at it deeply)
  • g
    it does.
  • g
    i highly recommend checking it out, it might hone the edge of htmx's toolset
  • g
    (on top of which, elixir is like a top 3 ever programming language with regards to developer ergonomics.)
  • m
    is the back end and front end integrated?
  • g
    in the same way that django is; liveview renders templates.
  • m
    hmm, I'll need to read more
  • m
    a core idea w/ htmx was that I didn't want to have any backend knowledge
  • m
    just enhance html
  • g
    yeah and it works perfectly well for that and i wouldn't argue it should be any differently.
  • g
    liveview and htmx are also not incompatible
  • g
    you can certainly use them together
  • m
    is there a good tutorial you can recommend?
  • g
    the one that i used is a paid tutorial
  • g
    the docs are pretty good though
  • m
    if it's good I'm willing to pay
  • g
    and there's a demo i linked above that takes you through the hwole process
  • g
    https://courses.knowthen.com/p/elixir-and-phoenix-for-beginners this is what i used. 'for beginners' meaning beginners to the elixir language
  • m
    i know nothing about elixir
  • g
    it's nice. be careful... once you try pattern matching, every other programming language will feel stupid and immature
  • m
    i've used pattern matching in some ML variants, if it's the same feature
  • g

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEUHb7RJspQ▾

  • g
    3:40 has a good comparison to a javascript snippet
  • g
    one of my fav usecases for it is function overloading
  • m
    yes, this is the functional style of pattern matching
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