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  • l

    late-king-98305

    02/24/2023, 2:30 PM
    Oh, it's all unclass - thus why I would be discussing it in an open forum. 🙂 Interestingly, our biggest resistance to change is inside our own team. Our contract owner has asked us to investigate and switch to an Agile process (didn't specify which one - heh), but our CM folks are terribly hung up on "CMMI Level 3!" and "mature processes!". We managed to do a proof-of-concept on a project last year, and we were rolling until it came time to actually get the code to the field; then, it was "Oh no - that was just for development; we aren't changing anything in the process after that." The users said it was good just before Labor Day; it hit the field just before Thanksgiving. .sigh. This move that may end up with us commercial-first may also force them to adapt some of that - at least that's my hope.
  • m

    mysterious-car-3675

    02/24/2023, 2:36 PM
    You can talk about the work you do even in s or TS, unless you can't. Usually it's about the data, but yeah whole deploys can be tagged. Sometimes it's just which network is on like sipr
  • m

    mysterious-car-3675

    02/24/2023, 2:37 PM
    Over classification is a bane
  • r

    refined-waiter-90422

    02/24/2023, 2:49 PM
    Is it reasonable to assume the DOD has audited vscode? That'd be a nice service. How do they handle the possibility of a supply chain attack in the extension ecosystem?
  • m

    mysterious-car-3675

    02/24/2023, 2:51 PM
    There is a process, can't talk about beyond you run all requests to proxies that deal with it
  • m

    mysterious-toddler-20573

    02/24/2023, 2:56 PM
    related thought: i wonder if we've reached the point that dependencies should be checked in
  • m

    mysterious-toddler-20573

    02/24/2023, 2:57 PM
    this is how we used to do it: check in a bunch of jars
  • m

    mysterious-toddler-20573

    02/24/2023, 2:57 PM
    then maven came along and that was a bad idea
  • m

    mysterious-toddler-20573

    02/24/2023, 2:57 PM
    now I wonder if tools that do the transitive closure management against a persisted
    /lib
    folder is the right thing
  • m

    mysterious-toddler-20573

    02/24/2023, 2:58 PM
    it would also surface just how insane your dependency graph is, if you had to check in 80MB worth of
    /lib
  • g

    gorgeous-airport-54386

    02/24/2023, 2:58 PM
    https://deno.land/manual@v1.21.0/tools/vendor
  • m

    mysterious-toddler-20573

    02/24/2023, 2:59 PM
    certainly for htmx, I wonder if we should check in the testing libraries since that's what requires npm for doing local dev
  • g

    gorgeous-airport-54386

    02/24/2023, 2:59 PM
    the tests are all run in-browser right?
  • m

    mysterious-toddler-20573

    02/24/2023, 2:59 PM
    https://github.com/bigskysoftware/htmx/blob/160e2a4fc2f8d9fc26c9b117ced7ca04de9f6039/scripts/www.js#L9
  • m

    mysterious-toddler-20573

    02/24/2023, 2:59 PM
    yes
  • m

    mysterious-toddler-20573

    02/24/2023, 2:59 PM
    six total files needed
  • m

    mysterious-toddler-20573

    02/24/2023, 3:00 PM
    we copy them out to make the stuff off https://htmx.org/test work
  • m

    mysterious-toddler-20573

    02/24/2023, 3:01 PM
    that's our only dev-time dependency on npm
  • m

    mysterious-toddler-20573

    02/24/2023, 3:01 PM
    unfortunately I also picked 11ty for the static site generator, which brings in the usual js dependency insanity
  • m

    mysterious-toddler-20573

    02/24/2023, 3:01 PM
    but @gorgeous-ghost-95789 is going to switch us to a go-based ssg, so all good there, right @gorgeous-ghost-95789 ?
  • g

    gorgeous-airport-54386

    02/24/2023, 3:02 PM
    last time i installed go it created a non-hidden directory in my home :[
  • m

    mysterious-toddler-20573

    02/24/2023, 3:02 PM
    i'm always a little shocked how hard browser testing has proven using javascript testing tools
  • m

    mysterious-toddler-20573

    02/24/2023, 3:02 PM
    I vote we build our site using R
  • m

    mysterious-toddler-20573

    02/24/2023, 3:03 PM
    #1069737521522683934 rise up
  • m

    mysterious-toddler-20573

    02/24/2023, 3:03 PM
    https://gohugo.io/ this was the last go ssg I looked at, not bad, but a project
  • m

    mysterious-toddler-20573

    02/24/2023, 3:04 PM
    #929014829212123156 explain yourself
  • m

    mysterious-toddler-20573

    02/24/2023, 3:05 PM
    the good news is that the content in
    /www
    is pretty generic and could easily be ported to pretty much any ssg
  • m

    mysterious-toddler-20573

    02/24/2023, 3:05 PM
    a low-deps python-based ssg might be the rhymeyest option
  • r

    refined-waiter-90422

    02/24/2023, 3:06 PM
    Dunno if we're really winning much moving away from package-lock.json.. the packages locked in are already checked against an integrity hash, unless i'm missing something.
  • r

    refined-waiter-90422

    02/24/2023, 3:07 PM
    The devil could be in the details.. aka the hash could be created after downloading something, lol. Typical cheeky npm.
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