Yeah, at the request of this community. IMO, the new one is not better than the old. But I'll take it, if that's what's required to get ESM support

Yeah honestly Derek did good on that one. Solid PR.

SolidPR? is that that new JS framework? 🧌

BTW - what would be helpful for this "revealed with delay" functionality? Should I create a Github Issues or anything?

a github issue would be good

how urgent?

Not

are you interested in doing some work on it?

I feel like htmx has more mechanical sympathy than the mess we've made in the past 10 years. just putting that out there.

With the Hx-Trigger response header, is it possible to specify the target element? This pattern could be quite nice when paired with alpine. For instance if there is an element that is listening to an event like:

<div id="targetElement" x-on:myevent="performSomeJS()"></div>

Could the Hx-Trigger response header cause it to fire, rather than targeting the element that caused the request and bubbling up to the body? Currently, as a workaround, I have an event listener on the element that caused the request and another event listener on the element that I would like to actually receive the event, and I use htmx.trigger("#targetElement", ...) to target the element that I would actually like to receive the event.

Semantically, basically an

HX-Trigger-OOB

yes, that is an awesome way of putting it

what's this communities opinion on a good IDE for plain-js development?

WebStorm

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I was 2 years on Eclipse - then 9 years on JetBrains - and now 1 year of VSCode. To me VSCode is the best for js. What I mean by the best: 1. More lightweight than JetBrains 2. Easier to customize. For example I want

await

to be highlighted, so I see immediately where async points are in the function. Another example I want to dimm asserts and logs, I don't care about those most of the time when reading code. I'm pretty sure in JB it would be possible, but in VSCode it was just super simple to do, and because of this simplicity - I actually did it, whereas in JB I never did because I didn't knew it was possible.

Example await highlight:

example assert dimm:

I also tend to use themes with zero syntax highlighting. I don't know, it's just simpler to me, less distractions from the actual logic.

The stuff that I want to highlight - I want to pick it by myself (awaits as an example here). Syntax is just a noise.

ya I'm using IntelliJ. I have tried VSCode multiple times but something about the hotkeys and controls doesn't click with me. A lot of JS focused devs like it though

Is it normal for

htmx-indicator

to appear on initial page load and subsequently get hidden? isn't supposed to be hidden on first page load?

Had to add the CSS specified here (https://htmx.org/attributes/hx-indicator/) #readthedocs

@mysterious-toddler-20573 doesn't like vscode cause it is a successful project that's fast and stable written in typescript 😛

nah, I just don't like its name

vscode? c'mon

more like vsdumb

Question re: replacing my websockets implementation with HTMX's. This is the current JS code I have:

js
var ws_scheme = window.location.protocol == "http:" ? "ws" : "wss";
var ws_path = ws_scheme + '://' + window.location.host + "/";
var mysocket = new ReconnectingWebSocket(ws_path);
mysocket.maxReconnectAttempts = 3;
mysocket.timeoutInterval = 8000;

I'm almost 100% certain the mechanism described under "Automatic Reconnection" in the docs (https://htmx.org/extensions/web-sockets/) is better than my implementation, but just wanna be sure I'm not missing anything here? 1. Does HTMX automatically choose between

ws

and

wss

based on the HTTP(S) protocol? 2. What are the default max **re**connection attempts?

2. To my knowledge, infinite, it just uses exponential backoff to increase the retry delay with every try, up until a limit [citation needed]