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# haxe-ui
  • b
    my point is that it mimicks the OS as best it can (and very well imo) but its not 100% "what the OS uses"... its a custom drawn / owner drawn impl... just a very very good one
  • p
    Except on KDE Plasma, where it is the OS's toolkit. (And OS isn't really the right term, desktop environment is the correct term.)
  • b
    on qt for windows, you can defo see inconsistencies when you put apps side by side - its clear, if you are looking, that one isnt "native" (to the OS's UI toolkit)
  • b
    yeah, fair enough, desktop env is defo the right term
  • b
    anyways, my (small) point has been rather obfuscated with terminology - my point was simply that qt draws all the stuff itself
  • b
    which is why its a great candidate for fully custom UIs - and, also imo, a pretty good candidate for OS "feeling" uis
  • r
    If you want pure native, wxwidgets of course exists.
  • b
    that was my point all along... its much more native (in the sense it honours the OS's toolkit) but at the same time much less cusomizable (osx / windows for example)
  • s
    ohh so even if I built wxQt for windows I wouldn't be able to customize
  • b
    ie, it doesnt draw its button to make it look like the ... ... ... desktop environments native UI toolkit... ...
  • b
    no clue, it may expose things better... like if you ask a windows button to have a red border, it will simply ignore it...
  • b
    thats a limitation at the OS level (i mean the desktop environments native UI toolkit 🙂 )
  • b
    maybe if you do the same in wxQT it will say "sure, thats doable"... no clue.. its defo doable in qt
  • s
    i think it's odd because any "game engine" backend makes my computer sad, but apparently native things still draw in the same way?
  • b
    sounds like your system is borked for, whatever said game engines use?
  • s
    heaps is using SDL
  • s
    but let's not debug here
  • p
    In the end everything will use OpenGL + X11. Although its possible that GTK/Qt fall back to software rendering?
  • b
    i think they do have a fallback, yeah
  • s
    wouldn't that make any QT program slower if it discovers OpenGL/X11 is borked?
  • p
    If it were really borked, Plasma would be completely fucked because it does OpenGL compositing and doesn't fall back to software like GNOME does.
  • b
    i think it gets the drawing context from the window manager too... i dont think its like its creates its own opengl context and just goes wild
  • b
    (qt i mean)
  • s
    yeah my desktop is functional so 😅
  • s
    altho openfl/heaps fucks my dock
  • b
    strange issue, the fact its both indicates its a system issue?
  • s
    yeah
  • s
    i'd have to see what backends they are using (i know heaps is using sdl)
  • b
    i think openfl too
  • p
    Both heaps and openfl use OpenGL + SDL.
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