# haxe-ui
- b
bright-gpu-74537
12/10/2021, 9:20 PMhmmm... thats interesting - p
powerful-morning-89
12/10/2021, 9:20 PMToo much C++ for my taste though. - b
bright-gpu-74537
12/10/2021, 9:21 PMwell, but if you could abstract out the generator.... ... i wonder 🤔 - p
powerful-morning-89
12/10/2021, 9:22 PMWebIDL specifically is not fit for C libraries, because it's too javascripty. So you'd have to design a custom IDL. (I'm not sure cannasse's thing is even valid WebIDL tbh.) - b
bright-gpu-74537
12/10/2021, 9:23 PMyeah, i defo mean some type of (more) abstract IDL... take a lib, turn that into an IDL, run that through a generator and it builds hxcpp externs, or hl externs, or lua ffi interfaces... whatever - b
bright-gpu-74537
12/10/2021, 9:24 PMfor sure its a million times harder than it sounds, but it would be ace if it existed - b
bright-gpu-74537
12/10/2021, 9:24 PM... ... and technically feasible i think - b
bright-gpu-74537
12/10/2021, 9:27 PMyeah, its not something im planning on doing... although, it is something that would be great to "have done" - b
bright-gpu-74537
12/10/2021, 9:27 PMdoesnt look like fun that - p
powerful-morning-89
12/10/2021, 9:28 PMIt's essentially a haxe version of the regex I was using before. - p
powerful-morning-89
12/10/2021, 9:29 PMNot sure if it's fully working, but it parses the html5 spec, so let's pretend it does. - b
bright-gpu-74537
12/10/2021, 9:29 PMstill, conceptually, i love the idea... i mean, an IDL for raylib, generated from the api xml and then generated into HL and hxcpp externs (and glue) - b
bright-gpu-74537
12/10/2021, 9:30 PMi think the best idea, for now, is to just generate the HL externs separately - let that percolate for a few months and then see if they can be "joined" in someway - b
bright-gpu-74537
12/10/2021, 9:31 PMtechnically, all the info is there... its just in the wrong "format" essentially - b
bright-gpu-74537
12/10/2021, 9:31 PM(im using raylib as an example just because its simple, but large) - p
powerful-morning-89
12/10/2021, 9:32 PMNot all the info. The xml thing doesn't tell you wether a pointer is an object or an array does it. - b
bright-gpu-74537
12/10/2021, 9:32 PMnope, i dont think so - b
bright-gpu-74537
12/10/2021, 9:32 PMso yeah, there might need to be manual annotations of some description - b
bright-gpu-74537
12/10/2021, 9:33 PMok, so let me rephrase: a shitload of the information is already there - p
powerful-morning-89
12/10/2021, 9:35 PMAnd in a easily™️ parsable format. The vulkan registry is also xml... but with a very complex structure.Pro tip, don't try to parse that monster. - b
bright-gpu-74537
12/10/2021, 9:36 PMhaha, no worries, i wont 😄 if i do do any of this (which i probably wont, might not, maybe will) it will be with something like raylib, or wxwidgets - b
bright-gpu-74537
12/10/2021, 9:37 PMraylib feels like a great candidate for trying this stuff, because its so small (but not trivial), and has these hiccups like you mentioned about pointers - b
bright-gpu-74537
12/10/2021, 9:39 PM... ... maybe handcrafting is the way, but it feels wrong... that (to me) is especially underlined with the HL externs i just played about with - p
powerful-morning-89
12/10/2021, 9:43 PMThat depends on which approach you take. If you, like me, expose the raw native apis to haxe, then autogenerating is probably a good idea. If you, like Nicolas, expose not the raw native apis, but something with a bunch of logic in the glue code, and less things exposed directly the haxe side, then handcrafting is the way. Now, it's getting a bit late over here, so I'll answer any further questions tomorrow. - b
bright-gpu-74537
12/10/2021, 9:44 PM> Now, it's getting a bit late over here, so I'll answer any further questions tomorrow. sure, nice one - didnt mean to keep you - appreciate the conversation / info - b
billions-carpenter-3485
12/12/2021, 9:52 AMBut looks neat. I think I just write a c lib that creates only the functionality to get the sound volume. So I only need to maintain two functions. One that returns all input devices and one the allows a input device and a callback as an argument. - s
straight-oyster-87301
12/13/2021, 5:48 PMwhat native libs are supported (specifically linux) GNOME isn't the only display engine - p
powerful-morning-89
12/13/2021, 5:52 PMGNOME is a desktop environment. In terms of "native" backends, currently there's only hxWidgets. I think that on GNU/Linux wxWidgets uses GTK.