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# haxe-ui
  • b
    notice there are no blue borders, because windows doesnt allow this
  • b
    on macos, the buttons will ignore pretty much every style except the font size
  • b
    (macos being much stricter from a UI point of view)
  • b
    so when you tell haxeui-core "i want a red button with a blue border" you are really asking the backend to honour that - some can, some cant
  • e
    Is it like a allowance or restrictions that make it impossible to honour that? it's weird
  • b
    its OS restrictions... you cant make a windows button have a "4px dotted yellow border"... its just not possible
  • b
    so haxeui-hxwidgets inherits this limitation
  • e
    It's software limitation or something? I'm confused
  • b
    its an OS limitation... when you create a native button, what you are really doing is saying to the OS "can you create button for me", and it goes "sure"... there is then no way to then say to it "can you make the button have a massive yellow border?"... there is just no api do to that... if you wanted that you would have to draw it all yourself, which means its no longer a native UI
  • b
    and btw, i wouldnt even really call it a limitation... most OS's werent coded to be 100% customizable from a UI perspective - linux is much better btw
  • e
    Mmh... Interesting, I'll note that when touching HxWidgets
  • e
    I guess linux is better cos the UI perspective, but I'll stay in my Window 97 software with my 1270's PC thank you
  • b
    take macos, you can customize (visually) almost nothing, its incredibly strict - and although it can be annoying, i totally get it. I means native macos apps always look consistent... ... ... you want a big red button on macos? Tough, you cant. And maybe thats a good thing (ofc, in reality you could always just use images anyway)
  • b
    well, linux (GTK specifically) is much more customisable, but that comes with its own set of problems and issues regarding consistency across distributions
  • e
    Yeah, You can do it with images but I guess that it's cool to have the least images possible and not having 70k images to preload them 😂
  • s
    to make it customizable you'll probably have to do haxeui-win32api 😄 which would be a bit weird
  • b
    yeah, its a shitty solution, but it could work. A better solution is to not try and create "crazy" UIs for native platforms, you want the UI generally to "fit" with the platform
  • b
    tbh, even that wouldnt work, wxwidgets uses the win api to create its windows, the OS is what imposes the limition, you could use the winapi to create DCs (devices contexts - basically drawing surfaces) and then draw everything yourself, but then i would argue it doesnt make sense to use a native backend anymore if you are just "misusing" it
  • e
    The other solution is to demand at OS HQ with torches to make a less limitation but I think it's a bad idea
  • s
    yep
  • b
    heh heh... tbh there is no good solution, on one hand you have the OS imposing limitations and devs arent happy, then on the other you have a super flexible UI system but that means its gets abused and UIs break between "flavours" because everyone is customising everything (ie, linux)
  • b
    what works and looks good in version 8.3.43 totally breaks on 8.3.45, or some other flavour, or because the user has a custom theme or something
  • b
    ... its a tough one generally, and i think i probably edge towards apples ethos (in this regard alone) which is: "listen, its my OS, ill tell you how things look"
  • e
    Yeh... It seems that The best way to do Custom UI's is making: -Boring ones -With 180k images -A haxeui composite backend
  • b
    ... or just use a haxeui composite backend 😉
  • f
    @User is there still a simple example of creating an html component for playing an html video? Or anything similar i can look at? I cant seem to find all the old files on my hard drives i had.
  • f
    The responsive example from your repository was a nice memory jogger. Most of those examples worked for me. Only 5 of them gave me errors, including the custom-component example.
  • b
    yeah, i need to go through all those examples and update them a little...
  • b
    i guess you could wrap the 
    <video />
    html tag (i think its the video tag anyway)
  • f
    Perfect, thank you.
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