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# haxe-ui
  • i
    it's a whole ball of mess that's hard to deal with
  • b
    its a pretty shitting valid point though... how do you say, in french: * Candidate "Ian Harrigan" has been updated * Canddate "Fiona Harrigan" has been updated ?
  • i
    if you've ever seen my rants on #502857487888809985 then you'd see that something like Polish has different plural rules for a word based on (singular; ends in 1 < x > 5 but not if it's a "teen" number; everything else)
  • b
    does the gender of the... ... noun (?) "candidate" change?
  • f
    Yes that' why I think the haxeui system is good enough for basic apps, but cool to be able to hook some other systems. Because there aren't really any good i18 system ( I think). For example I did a swahili version and like 3 apples will be "applem", 5 apples will be "applet", 9 apples or more "applesss"
  • b
    yeah, i used to speak arabic (kinda), and iirc, there there is "1", "2" and "more than 2" for pluraity
  • i
    PO/POT format is pretty good for translation but you need a full GNU gettext implementation for haxe to do that
  • f
    Hmm you can change it , but I don't think it reallybothers it's in masculine . Specially if you leave the name in the quote
  • i
    and AFAIK there is none yet, deepnight did one but it doesn't support pluralisation rules
  • b
    ok, out of curiosity, how would it change?
  • b
    let say:
  • i
    wrt masculine/feminine or other word genders, some translations just leave it as a neuter and call it a day
  • b
    * The candidate Ian Harrigan has been updated successfully * The candidate Fiona Harrigan has been updated successfully
  • f
    Hmm, in fact you would leave it masculine because it would be too complex and kind of weird ( you're not bout the person but the form, a person cannot be updated, so I think in this context having all masculine is better.) - Le candidat Ian Harrigan a été updaté avec succès - La candidate Fiona Harrigan a été updatée avec succès Notice the e in updatée lol It's more the name of the form thant the name of a person
  • b
    good to know - although, actually, now that i think about it... there is no way the system could "know" that Fiona is female, well, i mean, i could grab the "gender" field, but that assuming its filled in correctly, and it feels like a massive over complication for something so small... ... could be pretty cool though tbh (from a user perspective)
  • b
    OK, what about: * Ian Harrigan has been updated successfully * Fiona Harrigan has been updated successfully ?
  • i
    I recently found Project Fluent, which aims to decouple language rules from program logic (as far as possible)
  • b
    does that change significantly given that its no longer about "the candidate" ?
  • b
    oh man, i do like that
  • b
    stupidly complex though
  • i
    you end up with resource text like this (seems to be focused on JS at the moment):
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    ## Closing tabs

tabs-close-button = Close
tabs-close-tooltip = {$tabCount ->
    [one] Close {$tabCount} tab
   *[other] Close {$tabCount} tabs
}
tabs-close-warning =
    You are about to close {$tabCount} tabs.
    Are you sure you want to continue?

## Syncing

-sync-brand-name = Firefox Account

sync-dialog-title = {-sync-brand-name}
sync-headline-title =
    {-sync-brand-name}: The best way to bring
    your data always with you
sync-signedout-title =
    Connect with your {-sync-brand-name}
  • b
    yeah, its defo a really nice "covers it all" system... even that demo on the front page is kinda "oh shit, yeah, it happens in english too"... i just wonder if its TOO complex
  • b
    > ⁨Anne⁩ ⁨added ⁨2⁩ new photos⁩ to ⁨her stream⁩.
  • b
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    shared-photos =
    {$userName} {$photoCount ->
        [one] added a new photo
       *[other] added {$photoCount} new photos
    } to {$userGender ->
        [male] his stream
        [female] her stream
       *[other] their stream
    }.
  • i
    the polish translation to the bottom really drives it home though
  • i
    gender and case rules specific to polish don't leak out into program logic
  • f
    Doesn't change anything. I think it's more the word updated that makes it possible to have it all in masculine. Because you "feel" it's a form or not a person. Now if you say Fiona Harrigan has been added , here feminine would we kind of cool . But then our brains have been molded to bad apps and the internet so it isn't shocking in this case to have it in masculine
  • i
    I hear the same thing from a polish person, they are used to having apps that can't/don't apply their language correctly
  • b
    ok, so what would be the two forms of "Candidate X has been created successfully"? (which is an actual string in my app)
  • b
    > For example, the Polish translation for tab takes a different form for counts of 2, 3, and 4 than it does for 5, 6, or 7
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