# haxe-ui
- b
bright-gpu-74537
04/19/2022, 9:01 AMhmm, i suppose... ive always kinda though of HL and "new neko" - b
bright-gpu-74537
04/19/2022, 9:02 AMbut yeah, i guess they do serve the same purposes - p
powerful-morning-89
04/19/2022, 9:03 AMIt is a new neko. But hxcpp has cppia, which also a bytecode VM. So Nicolas could have used and improved that instead. And then he made HL/C instead of using and further improving Hxcpp. - b
best-agent-85158
04/19/2022, 9:04 AMI guess it's about ego - b
bright-gpu-74537
04/19/2022, 9:04 AMor maybe hxcpp is a huge pain to maintain? - b
best-agent-85158
04/19/2022, 9:04 AMWhich is sad, because it's just "poisoning" haxe - p
powerful-morning-89
04/19/2022, 9:04 AMNicolas probably suffers from Not Invented Here syndrome. - b
best-agent-85158
04/19/2022, 9:05 AMLol - b
bright-gpu-74537
04/19/2022, 9:05 AMhaha, never heard that before - b
best-agent-85158
04/19/2022, 9:05 AMAlso, Copiague doesn't seem to be supported by any major framework while hlc has the same thing - b
best-agent-85158
04/19/2022, 9:06 AMIt's just kinda funny - b
best-agent-85158
04/19/2022, 9:06 AMIf I had a choice, I would abandon hl in favor of hxcpp cause it's just that much faster - p
powerful-morning-89
04/19/2022, 9:06 AMNME supports Cppia. - b
best-agent-85158
04/19/2022, 9:07 AMExcept nme - p
powerful-morning-89
04/19/2022, 9:07 AMYes, but HL has sane compile times. - b
bright-gpu-74537
04/19/2022, 9:07 AMthis is very true - b
best-agent-85158
04/19/2022, 9:07 AMCppia should be near the speed of hl tho - b
bright-gpu-74537
04/19/2022, 9:07 AMbut maybe if cppia was better know, you could compile to cppia and then release to hxcpp? Would that work? - b
best-agent-85158
04/19/2022, 9:07 AMOr not? - b
bright-gpu-74537
04/19/2022, 9:08 AM... would it even help with compile times? - p
powerful-morning-89
04/19/2022, 9:08 AMCppia is slower than hl in some benchmarks. - b
bright-gpu-74537
04/19/2022, 9:08 AMbut i mean to alleviate the compile times? - b
best-agent-85158
04/19/2022, 9:08 AMbut in compile time - b
best-agent-85158
04/19/2022, 9:09 AMStill better to have 1 standard ofr hxcpp even 9f that means sacrificing performance - b
best-agent-85158
04/19/2022, 9:09 AMIt's just too messy - r
refined-greece-48002
04/19/2022, 9:10 AMHl compile times compared to c++ make it worthwhile for me... - p
powerful-morning-89
04/19/2022, 9:10 AMCppia would help with compile times, but only when you're not dealing with code that interacts with native stuff. Eg hxWidgets would have to be compiled to C++, but haxeui-hxwidhets could go in the cppia file. - b
bright-gpu-74537
04/19/2022, 9:10 AMi think thats valid, and probably the opinion of most - b
bright-gpu-74537
04/19/2022, 9:11 AMgotcha.. interesting... so that would defo help then because hxWidgets wouldnt change too often... although yeah, still and initial huge compile time (relatively speaking) - b
bright-gpu-74537
04/19/2022, 9:12 AMi guess the benefit of HL is that it compiles to an .hdll?