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# ceramic
  • a
    I only mentioned it cause 200gb for unity is huge 😂
  • a
    reminds me of android stuff
  • b
    I don't have many reasons to create a backend for kha at the moment. I don't have a specific project that needs consoles support right now, and other targets work fine with clay backend
  • e
    each install is several gb iirc
  • b
    The 200Gb of unity is not because of Ceramic
  • a
    yeah, that's fair, i have no personal interest in the backend as well. Just "informing"
  • a
    I know
  • b
    To be frank, I wished I spent more time creating games and less creating the tools
  • b
    But I am the one responsible of my own curse
  • a
    heh
  • a
    it's the fun problem
  • a
    "making engines are fun"
  • a
    > makes engine
  • b
    That said I have the feeling Ceramic is getting closer to a state where I'll spend more time using it than fixing it
  • a
    "man i want to make something with this"
  • a
    go back to step 1
  • a
    yeah, this is a nice place to be and one i want to get to as well
  • b
    Yea I'm very aware of this that's why I'm trying to limit the scope of Ceramic
  • b
    A kha backend is not an option because I don't really have a use for it
  • b
    But Ceramic is open source
  • b
    so if other developers want to see additions they wish existed, they CAN contribute
  • b
    I'm open to that
  • b
    Documenting Ceramic is a requirement to allow that though
  • a
    yeah
  • b
    that's why I'm eager to make Ceramic a well documented tech
  • a
    ceramic is cool
  • a
    i think it'll attract a lot of people
  • b
    But I will not implement one feature after another if I don't need it myself, it doesn't make sense for me
  • a
    it seems like a step up for flixel, a bit more control without going down to heaps level
  • a
    a lot of people have been learning off of flixel as well which is nice
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