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# ceramic
  • b
  • r
    wow, that was easy
  • r
    I do have a few comments on installing ceramic on a fresh install of macOS, I'll make a github issue later
  • r
  • b
    Hey nice 🙂
  • b
    Yes that’s a problem at the moment indeed. I’d like to solve most install issues by actually creating a real installer (msi/pkg…) just like haxe. I believe that would make the first steps smoother
  • r
    Eh, I like it being command line honestly
  • r
    maybe moving away from haxelib is worth it
  • b
    You can actually install ceramic without haxelib
  • b
    Just download the zip on github, unpack, and run ceramic from the tools/folder (./ceramic link to install it globally, but that will have the same issue with usr/local/bin at the moment)
  • f
    i have reason to believe that there are still issues with ceramic's audio
  • f
    the kind of issues that you wouldn't notice if you were doing something normal. but, hypothetically speaking, if you were making a precise rhythm game, might make you spend several days trying to figure out with the problem is
  • f
    then try building for windows to see what happens and realizing that the offsets are completely different between windows and web
  • b
    If there is indeed an issue, then you’ll need to provide a project reproducing that issue, and also explain what the issue is. Is it happening on web? On native?
  • b
    Also, double check that you use latest ceramic, as last time this was the cause
  • f
    i am on 1.16.0
  • f
    i'm putting together a test project now
  • f
  • f
    Run it it web and give it a listen, then run it in Windows. For me, it's distinctly off in Windows.
  • b
    There is indeed a slight latency on native. As a workaround, you can try to use 
    ceramic_use_openal
    define so that it will use openal instead of soloud
  • b
    I'll have to look into it, thanks for the test project
  • f
    seems weird that there would be a latency on native but not web, but software just be like that
  • b
    There is either a problem with soloud or SDL audio
  • f
    also, uh, where do i put that?
  • f
    i am not familiar with "define"s
  • b
    in ceramic.yml,
    Copy code
    yaml
    defines:
      - ceramic_use_openal
  • b
    I think I found the issue
  • b
    It's because soloud defaults to a buffer of 2048
  • b
    which is pretty high
  • b
    Reducing that value improves things so far but it still not perfect
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