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    tyja9

    05/21/2023, 5:35 PM
    We need to be above the pettiness
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    tyja9

    05/21/2023, 5:36 PM
    Erg stands for truth and transparency, using a 2016 ETC account as our own makes 0 sense
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 5:36 PM
    Hello
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 5:37 PM
    (re @awesome_around : Who of the ergo foundation decides if they giv...) They said it go back to Charles in that case, not ETC
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 5:37 PM
    Charles will never give the account back. He called etc a scam.
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    tyja9

    05/21/2023, 5:38 PM
    who cares, it's a moot point
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    dΣathgripson

    05/21/2023, 5:38 PM
    give account to cardano maybe lol
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    tyja9

    05/21/2023, 5:38 PM
    stop worrying about what CH thinks
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 5:39 PM
    Why not just "give it back": - It's not clear its ours to give back, I don't know if the owner is still Charles or is it joint custody. - It's not guaranteed the beef will be over, they can just see it as proof of capitulation. - We may start a new beef with Charles/Cardano by going against his vision for the account. - We are basically admitting wrong doing. Not good.
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 5:39 PM
    Not worried, agree with him and glad etc is not getting it back
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 5:40 PM
    (re @marty_ergopad : I can't see any cons. Please elucidate) The best solutions pros/cons wise is to repurpose the account to something neutral: PoW Alliance.
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    dΣathgripson

    05/21/2023, 5:42 PM
    respectfully, if suggesting a twitter account is used differently causes beef w cardano, that represents an extremely fragile relationship to begin with. giving them the account should solve these issues, charles had the account and is associated w cardano so why would he mind using it to advertise cardano?
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 5:42 PM
    (re @louissignet : The best solutions pros/cons wise is to repurp...) Badly needed post merge for miners. Imo. Too much focus on VC coins these days.
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 5:42 PM
    (re @louissignet : *Why not just "give it back": - It's not clear ...*) Nothing wrong with admitting a mistake, but it’s not that simple. Giving to etc (notice I’m not saying giving back, since it was not in their possession in the first place) has many more implications than that. POW alliance shared Twitter is a pretty good idea. Sigs can remake a new Twitter account and give it back to EF. Or stay with it and share with EF and or EF makes a new one just for those EF official purposes (like iohk global vs cardano)
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 5:43 PM
    I think the best con argument for me is the admission to wrong doing. We didn't start this whole controversy. Charles did.
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 5:43 PM
    (re @dadreboi : Nothing wrong with admitting a mistake, but it...) Or just make the EF ask permission from the Sigs
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 5:43 PM
    Using it for something neutral where even the ETC guys can join (if they want) is the best solution
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    tyja9

    05/21/2023, 5:43 PM
    We can still say sorry for being a dumbass
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 5:44 PM
    (re @louissignet : Using it for something neutral where even the ...) They won’t ID guess. Prob be us and Btc kaspa alph
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    tyja9

    05/21/2023, 5:44 PM
    Using the account has proven to be fruitless and we should be more than happy to admit a mistake
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 5:44 PM
    There is a reason only 5k people followed them to their new account.
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 5:45 PM
    My vote would be pow group tweetdeck or just keep on as is now.
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 5:45 PM
    We shouldn't admit nothing. It wasn't our beef to begin with. It's just dumb and can have future unintenteded effects. It totally frees Charles and the ETC dummies that gave away their account from responsability.
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 5:45 PM
    (re @Armeanio : Or just make the EF ask permission from the Si...) Who runs Sigs, who runs EF?
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    tyja9

    05/21/2023, 5:46 PM
    We lose nothing by relinquishing control of the account, we gain everything by taking the high road, even if it is a little late, and most importantly we realign the ergo community in the stupid social media world
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 5:46 PM
    (re @awesome_around : Who runs Sigs, who runs EF?) Sigs is community. sigmanauts.com come look.
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    tyja9

    05/21/2023, 5:46 PM
    maybe we even blow up a bit and get some of that organic marketing we keep dreaming of
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 5:46 PM
    There is no high road in crypto bro. I'm totally against ERG taking the fall for the faults of both ETC and Charles.
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    tyja9

    05/21/2023, 5:47 PM
    Dude, you're going to have to give a little here. Mistake were made on multiple fronts
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    thecolj

    05/21/2023, 5:47 PM
    Yeah, the give is to not use the account
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