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  • And inquiring minds would like to know.
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    thecolj

    04/12/2023, 9:50 AM
    And inquiring minds would like to know.
  • This is grass roots. This is all we’ve got.
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    thecolj

    04/12/2023, 9:50 AM
    This is grass roots. This is all we’ve got.
  • Hello to All
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    thecolj

    04/12/2023, 9:51 AM
    Hello to All
  • In this group anyone is looking for web3 blockchain developer then contact me pls
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    thecolj

    04/12/2023, 9:52 AM
    In this group anyone is looking for web3 blockchain developer then contact me pls
  • I am looking for blockchain development projects
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    thecolj

    04/12/2023, 9:52 AM
    I am looking for blockchain development projects
  • (re @Bye : *If you feel it’s risky I understand but natura...*) Mathe difference is most people don’t hold stocks of either Coca Cola or Pepsi. Crypto is extremely tribal, and comparisons often hurt some snowflake’s feelings and you get more shit out of it than good
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    thecolj

    04/12/2023, 9:53 AM
    (re @Bye : If you feel it’s risky I understand but natura...) Mathe difference is most people don’t hold stocks of either Coca Cola or Pepsi. Crypto is extremely tribal, and comparisons often hurt some snowflake’s feelings and you get more shit out of it than good
  • So it has to be super founded and don’t leave any room for attacks
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    thecolj

    04/12/2023, 9:54 AM
    So it has to be super founded and don’t leave any room for attacks
  • (re @Shilpa : *In this group anyone is looking for web3 block...*) Are you familiar with eUTXO model?
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    thecolj

    04/12/2023, 9:59 AM
    (re @Shilpa : In this group anyone is looking for web3 block...) Are you familiar with eUTXO model?
  • (re @limebread : *But the difference is most people don’t hold s...*) Definitely tribal. This is a bear market. Everyone is set with their positions. They want to diversify their portfolio. If I touch on a project that they’re in and I show what I can do well, I’ve accomplished two things. A frame of reference and competence. Without that they’re not familiar with Ergo. It has to be presented as equal to the top chains. When you start getting mentioned in elite company you begin to get recognized as part of the whole. I’m just throwing ideas at the wall and seeing what sticks. We have to brainstorm and figure out what is helpful marketing and it should be done aggressively. I don’t mean aggressively as in disrespecting other projects I mean putting Ergo out there so others can flock to it. It’s rough knowing Dogecoin, a meme coin is considered above Ergo. I just want others to know why Ergo is the more responsible investment.
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    thecolj

    04/12/2023, 10:02 AM
    (re @limebread : But the difference is most people don’t hold s...) Definitely tribal. This is a bear market. Everyone is set with their positions. They want to diversify their portfolio. If I touch on a project that they’re in and I show what I can do well, I’ve accomplished two things. A frame of reference and competence. Without that they’re not familiar with Ergo. It has to be presented as equal to the top chains. When you start getting mentioned in elite company you begin to get recognized as part of the whole. I’m just throwing ideas at the wall and seeing what sticks. We have to brainstorm and figure out what is helpful marketing and it should be done aggressively. I don’t mean aggressively as in disrespecting other projects I mean putting Ergo out there so others can flock to it. It’s rough knowing Dogecoin, a meme coin is considered above Ergo. I just want others to know why Ergo is the more responsible investment.
  • I agree. I’m doing that zealy stuff to attract new people. The more ideas and initiatives the better 💪
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    thecolj

    04/12/2023, 10:08 AM
    I agree. I’m doing that zealy stuff to attract new people. The more ideas and initiatives the better 💪
  • It's hard I want all my friends to hold at least $1000 ERG, But I'm just citizen average Joe. And don't feel comfortable giving out trading and investment advice.
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    raidboss

    04/12/2023, 10:10 AM
    It's hard I want all my friends to hold at least $1000 ERG, But I'm just citizen average Joe. And don't feel comfortable giving out trading and investment advice.
  • (re @Bye : *If you feel it’s risky I understand but natura...*) Kaspa is faster then ergo, bit security is shitty, people don't care about that lol
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    thecolj

    04/12/2023, 10:10 AM
    (re @Bye : If you feel it’s risky I understand but natura...) Kaspa is faster then ergo, bit security is shitty, people don't care about that lol
  • Well the ASICS are already out for KASPA. We decided to be ASIC resistant.
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    raidboss

    04/12/2023, 10:12 AM
    Well the ASICS are already out for KASPA. We decided to be ASIC resistant.
  • Security is of the utmost importance. That’s a key highlight right there. Everyone is paranoid of hackers and being phished. One major selling point. As far as speed if Ergo’s not the fastest then promote efficiency.
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    thecolj

    04/12/2023, 10:14 AM
    Security is of the utmost importance. That’s a key highlight right there. Everyone is paranoid of hackers and being phished. One major selling point. As far as speed if Ergo’s not the fastest then promote efficiency.
  • People got on Kaspa because they’re looking for hope.
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    thecolj

    04/12/2023, 10:15 AM
    People got on Kaspa because they’re looking for hope.
  • I just saw Argentina's 100% inflation rate today and thought how much we needthe BTC/ERGO manifesto more than ever for some places in the world.
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    raidboss

    04/12/2023, 10:17 AM
    I just saw Argentina's 100% inflation rate today and thought how much we needthe BTC/ERGO manifesto more than ever for some places in the world.
  • (re : *<cafebedouin> How do you talk about comparativ...*) Details are once they’re in and want t learn more. Ergo can simply say they’re safe and have experienced no breaches. People just want us to sum it up.
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    thecolj

    04/12/2023, 10:20 AM
    (re : How do you talk about comparativ...) Details are once they’re in and want t learn more. Ergo can simply say they’re safe and have experienced no breaches. People just want us to sum it up.
  • (re @Bye : *Details are once they’re in and want t learn m...*) Ergo can say "we are opensource" :)
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    thecolj

    04/12/2023, 10:32 AM
    (re @Bye : Details are once they’re in and want t learn m...) Ergo can say "we are opensource" :)
  • (re : *<cafebedouin> Good idea. I no longer talk to a...*) oppsite for me more and more people are interested, after i have explaine the oracle issue. Just try them to explain why bitcoin exist ( to kill the middelmen) You can transtfer digital data due to the bitcoinnetwork without any 3rd person (middelmen), so no one can scam u in this network and you can be 100 % sure that any transaction is like it is. You have to trust math not people
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    thecolj

    04/12/2023, 10:33 AM
    (re : Good idea. I no longer talk to a...) oppsite for me more and more people are interested, after i have explaine the oracle issue. Just try them to explain why bitcoin exist ( to kill the middelmen) You can transtfer digital data due to the bitcoinnetwork without any 3rd person (middelmen), so no one can scam u in this network and you can be 100 % sure that any transaction is like it is. You have to trust math not people
  • just such short cuts people get it dont start with decentralization and staff they will not get it ^^
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    thecolj

    04/12/2023, 10:34 AM
    just such short cuts people get it dont start with decentralization and staff they will not get it ^^
  • "bitcoin is the savest network in the world to transfer digital data without any 3red person interaction"
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    thecolj

    04/12/2023, 10:35 AM
    "bitcoin is the savest network in the world to transfer digital data without any 3red person interaction"
  • (re @Bye : *This one is solid but if there can be a differ...*) Yes more comparison infographics are certainly needed. The linked page wasn’t meant to be a marketing tool. More of a base for community to expand on and create more detailed comparisons. But yeah, picking useful columns for comparison is difficult. - Community dist % - Activity metrics? - GPU Mineable - Inflation rate Any more anyone can think of?
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    thecolj

    04/12/2023, 10:35 AM
    (re @Bye : This one is solid but if there can be a differ...) Yes more comparison infographics are certainly needed. The linked page wasn’t meant to be a marketing tool. More of a base for community to expand on and create more detailed comparisons. But yeah, picking useful columns for comparison is difficult. - Community dist % - Activity metrics? - GPU Mineable - Inflation rate Any more anyone can think of?
  • Where in the trilemma ergo sits maybe
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    thecolj

    04/12/2023, 10:37 AM
    Where in the trilemma ergo sits maybe
  • (re : *<raidboss> I just saw Argentina's 100% inflati...*) In Argentina BTC reached a new ATH recently… The industry, at least the English speaking bubble, is always so focused on USD value that we/they kinda forget about the rest of the world
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    thecolj

    04/12/2023, 10:43 AM
    (re : I just saw Argentina's 100% inflati...) In Argentina BTC reached a new ATH recently… The industry, at least the English speaking bubble, is always so focused on USD value that we/they kinda forget about the rest of the world
  • (re : *<cafebedouin> The problem is people trust othe...*) We lack people with there own thoughts and opinion, o we need educated influencers to teach people what ergo really Is
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    thecolj

    04/12/2023, 10:44 AM
    (re : The problem is people trust othe...) We lack people with there own thoughts and opinion, o we need educated influencers to teach people what ergo really Is
  • (re @limebread : *In Argentina BTC reached a new ATH recently… T...*) good point
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    thecolj

    04/12/2023, 10:45 AM
    (re @limebread : In Argentina BTC reached a new ATH recently… T...) good point
  • From <@430395372754698242> - got caught in spam Ergo is a cryptocurrency with a new block construct supporting complex contracts and noninteractive zero-knowledge proofs with a tiny amount of code. Every coin in Ergo is protected by a program in ErgoScript based on Sigma protocols so money and smart contracts are not separated. Thanks to the design, contracts don`t need admin keys for example. Sigma protocols allow you to combine AND, OR, and THRESHOLD (k-of-n). There are proofs of Schnorr and Diffie-Hellman tuple but more can be added via a soft fork. Native support for ring and threshold signatures, where from k-out-of-n signatures, it could not be concluded which k signers were real. Ergo has a unique POW algo design, support of light nodes, NiPoPoW proofs, soft-forkability approach, new economy - storage fee component provides additional incentives for miners, more predictable state size, better dust handling, lost coins can go back to circulation providing the predictable economy with no inflation or deflation. Ergo is a self‐amendable protocol, that allows it to absorb new ideas and improve itself in the future thanks to on-chain miner voting protocol that allows gradual changes in a large number of parameters like block size, storage fee, computational cost, etc on the fly. 50%+ of blocks mined within 1024 blocks epoch needs to be for raising/lowering the existing limit, and then it will be changed by 1% in the next epoch so it is a pretty dynamic approach. Fundamental changes require a super majority of 90% voting. Ergo brings storage of rich state, trustless off-chain protocols and contracts to be built on top of atomic exchange which is in the core, noninteractive mixing - fungible cash properties, stablecoin mixing or any token on top mixing, private order books for DEXes, new L2 designs etc. Ergo is also based on a bunch of research papers and community. It is hard to compare it to existing POW blockchains, it is new cash on the block.
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    Glasgow

    04/12/2023, 11:59 AM
    From @mx - got caught in spam Ergo is a cryptocurrency with a new block construct supporting complex contracts and noninteractive zero-knowledge proofs with a tiny amount of code. Every coin in Ergo is protected by a program in ErgoScript based on Sigma protocols so money and smart contracts are not separated. Thanks to the design, contracts don`t need admin keys for example. Sigma protocols allow you to combine AND, OR, and THRESHOLD (k-of-n). There are proofs of Schnorr and Diffie-Hellman tuple but more can be added via a soft fork. Native support for ring and threshold signatures, where from k-out-of-n signatures, it could not be concluded which k signers were real. Ergo has a unique POW algo design, support of light nodes, NiPoPoW proofs, soft-forkability approach, new economy - storage fee component provides additional incentives for miners, more predictable state size, better dust handling, lost coins can go back to circulation providing the predictable economy with no inflation or deflation. Ergo is a self‐amendable protocol, that allows it to absorb new ideas and improve itself in the future thanks to on-chain miner voting protocol that allows gradual changes in a large number of parameters like block size, storage fee, computational cost, etc on the fly. 50%+ of blocks mined within 1024 blocks epoch needs to be for raising/lowering the existing limit, and then it will be changed by 1% in the next epoch so it is a pretty dynamic approach. Fundamental changes require a super majority of 90% voting. Ergo brings storage of rich state, trustless off-chain protocols and contracts to be built on top of atomic exchange which is in the core, noninteractive mixing - fungible cash properties, stablecoin mixing or any token on top mixing, private order books for DEXes, new L2 designs etc. Ergo is also based on a bunch of research papers and community. It is hard to compare it to existing POW blockchains, it is new cash on the block.
  • thanks 👍
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    mx

    04/12/2023, 12:17 PM
    thanks 👍
  • (re : *<cafebedouin> The problem is people trust othe...*) mh i dont agree here people trust friends and family but they dont trust random people
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    thecolj

    04/12/2023, 12:17 PM
    (re : The problem is people trust othe...) mh i dont agree here people trust friends and family but they dont trust random people
  • any progress for stealth address , how to use , wallet support ... ?
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    thecolj

    04/12/2023, 1:15 PM
    any progress for stealth address , how to use , wallet support ... ?
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