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# workers-discussions
  • g
    inbound to workers or outbound from workers?
  • s
    both
  • s
    cause I think AWS can do it
  • s
    in combo with dynamoDB
  • s
    I am a beginner please be gentle ahah
  • a
    Workers can run as a proxy for Websocket connections, but it cannot terminate them or modify messages.
  • g
    workers can terminate ws though?
  • g
  • a
    Ah yes if you're using Durable Objects
  • g
    hm ive been able to terminate ws without any DO
  • s
    Does cloudflare bill each websocket message as a request?
  • g
    no each connection is 1 request
  • g
    unless youre using unbound i think?
  • s
    what is the response time like on it?
  • g
    uh as fast as a normal http response
  • g
    probably faster since the connection is already established
  • g
    but remember that each connection still has the cpu time + subrequest limit unless youre using unbound
  • s
    ok cool, this sounds quite promising!
  • s
    thank you for your help, I will continue to look into it
  • m
    đź‘‹ Sanity check, account_id and zone_id are okay to publish in a version controlled wrangler.toml, right?
  • a
    yes
  • e
    Yes, Workers can be a WebSocket server without DO. The only caveat is you can’t force connections to arrive at the same isolate (worker instance).
  • e
    An example use-case would be proxying and transforming websocket messages. Since you’re just forwarding the connection, they don’t need to all go to the same isolate.
  • e
    But if you wanted to make a websocket web game, you’d need DO
  • m
    uhh i had a thought can we use what odoh did for dns the same for building end to end encrypted chat application?? does it make sense?
  • u
    Hey sorry can i get help here or is this the wrong place
  • a
    If it is Cloudflare Workers related I think any member will gladly help.
  • u
    oooo
  • u
    sorry so this not for public cloud flare issues ?
  • m
    Correct, this is the Workers Discord server
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