i like the concepts elixir brings to the table, but it's got a super niche usecase imo - if you don't have millions of users, the performance doesn't justify a comparable rust solution (with just vertical scaling)

haven't used python though

Elixir fits Discord bots pretty well, and most real-time chat integrations I'd assume.

Web development is nice as well with frameworks like Phoenix.

i dont think ive actually heard of any elixir bots

discord is written in elixir so it'd make logical sense at least, but i guess people prefer other languages

if there isn't a library for the API there's probably not going to be bots in that language that said, there's libraries for discord in every language

here is one I help maintain for Elixir

well only for the gateway and maybe some other parts

rest api is in python and they also use rust

I know of at least a couple, but the language isn't public knowledge

oh yeah nostrum

the meme channel of dapi

we made it less memey now

you rarely find us in starboard!

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they should change this to the cloudflare discord

hi workers!

Are there any plans to lower latency of Workers KV in Australia? AFAIK the data is currently stored in US and EU, but it would be great if more central locations could be added to lower the latency even further.

@User AFAIK workers KV is per datacenter, and replicates globally

durable objects is per-datacenter

I’m 99% sure that Workers KV stores the data in two central locations (one in US and one in EU). And it is cached on each edge location, but only if it’s accessed frequently enough. For my use case I’ll have millions of objects that are not all accessed frequently so the latency when objects are not cached is crucial. Therefore I was wondering if Cloudflare has any plans on added more central locations where all objects are permanently stored.

it says in their documentation that it takes 60 seconds to propagate to all their datacenters

"Workers KV is a global, low-latency, key-value data store. It supports exceptionally high read volumes with low-latency, making it possible to build highly dynamic APIs and websites which respond as quickly as a cached static file would."

I don’t think you really understand how Workers KV works. Check this article: https://blog.cloudflare.com/catching-up-with-workers-kv/

“Very infrequently read values are stored centrally, while more popular values are maintained in all of our data centers around the world.”

“Recently, we have rolled out a major internal change. We have added a second source of truth on the European continent. These two sources of truth will still coordinate between themselves, ensuring that any data you write or update will be available in both places as soon as possible. But latencies from Europe, as well as places closer to Europe than the United States, should be much faster, as they do not have to go the full way to the US.”

It's a good question! I don't have the best answer since this may be more suited for someone who works on infrastructure. As you may know, bandwidth in Australia is particularly expensive, so this question will eventually be addressed when Cloudflare is generally able to negotiate with providers and get more P.O.Ps in that region.

Perhaps Singapore could be considered. I think the bandwidth is a lot cheaper there but it would still significantly lower the latency in Australia as well as most of Asia.

Or perhaps it would be an idea to let users choose (and pay) for which locations they want to act as a source of truth.