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# questions
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    michael_rowe

    08/14/2022, 5:34 AM
    1) What is the fundamental difference between Dendron and Obsidian (ignoring the fact that Dendron is open-source)? From what I can thell, it's the emphasis on hierarchy (https://www.kevinslin.com/notes/3dd58f62-fee5-4f93-b9f1-b0f0f59a9b64/). Is that correct?
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    michael_rowe

    08/14/2022, 5:36 AM
    2) I'm not a programmer but am fascinated with the idea of being able to write simple programmes that can be triggered by events, which stimulate me to perform actions on my notes. See Programmable notes, for example: https://maggieappleton.com/programmatic-notes. Would this be possible to do in Dendron? And not just possible in principle...possible to do now?
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    michael_rowe

    08/14/2022, 5:38 AM
    3) Other than hierarchy, is there a feature of Dendron that allows you do do something that would be difficult/impossible/awkward in Obsidian (or any other similar tool)?
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    KingJoshington

    08/14/2022, 8:35 AM
    Hello, please take pity on me because I'm a complete noob old man and trying to learn stuff. I've enjoyed Dendron so far, with the little I understand, because I'm able to "prettify" my notes. I'm learning Python from a course and I want to be able to take notes in VS Code but also have those notes look nice. The frustration that led me here is this: When I create a relative link within the note I'm working on, like this:
    Copy code
    relative link: [[Test link|#Exercises]]
    Clicking it in the Note Preview doesn't scroll the preview window down to the link, but rather it scrolls the actual file to that spot. Which means I have to scroll the preview window down anyway, defeating the purpose of the link.
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    KingJoshington

    08/14/2022, 8:35 AM
    I think that I could probably reduce the size of my notes in the future, after having read what @michael_rowe linked to with https://www.kevinslin.com/notes/3dd58f62-fee5-4f93-b9f1-b0f0f59a9b64/
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    KingJoshington

    08/14/2022, 8:36 AM
    Kevin's explanation of his organization is a nice glimpse. Are there other blogs that explain more in detail how to make better use of Dendron?
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    KingJoshington

    08/14/2022, 8:37 AM
    I realize now that how I'm organizing my notes isn't all that different from making a big word doc and just using headings as links ... except that the major headings have been separated out into separate notes.
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    rlh1994

    08/14/2022, 8:41 AM
    Not necessarily explaining dendron but there's quite a few dendron vaults shared online that you could look at to understand how others use it https://wiki.dendron.so/notes/3a82c5ff-7945-46ae-8bf9-3b2275fc6642/ But my opinion with this is really find what works for you and your use case - you can always refactor the notes later which is one of the big benefits of dendron!
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    rlh1994

    08/14/2022, 8:43 AM
    Currently the preview does not sync with where you are in the note, there's an open feature request to do that however if you want to "vote" for it by adding a thumbs up https://github.com/dendronhq/dendron/issues/1978
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    KingJoshington

    08/14/2022, 8:44 AM
    oh yes. This is exactly what I wanted! That would solve my problem and make me happy! I thought it was something I was doing wrong. Will vote!
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    KingJoshington

    08/14/2022, 8:44 AM
    And I'll look at the showcases, that's a good idea. Thank you for your help!
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    rlh1994

    08/14/2022, 8:45 AM
    That is the main difference plus (i believe, I've not used obsidian) that there's a focus as well on retrieval of notes at scale not just addition of them https://wiki.dendron.so/notes/a84ff014-e871-445d-9366-d97f1ad882f1/
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    rlh1994

    08/14/2022, 8:47 AM
    Not currently within just dendron itself, you could do it but would need some programming knowledge to write some scripts that would check for and then trigger things. The dendron team is looking at making the notes (or at least the metadata) queryable as a sqllite database which would make this much easier in the future. @kevins8 not sure if you have more to add on that
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    rlh1994

    08/14/2022, 8:49 AM
    Again I've not used the other tools, but I find refactoring huge numbers of notes really easy in dendron, so I'm not locked into a hierarchy I picked ages ago. Are there any specific issues or difficulties you've found with other tools?
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    hinogi

    08/14/2022, 10:03 AM
    is there something like boards/swimmlanes possible in dendron?
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    michael_rowe

    08/14/2022, 11:23 AM
    This is good to know. I was hoping for something more menu-based but I understand the challenges of including something like this. I'll keep an eye out for developments in this area.
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    michael_rowe

    08/14/2022, 11:27 AM
    I use Obsidian for a lot of my academic workflow and, for now, I'm not running into any problems. However, I foresee issues in the future around finding relevant information at scale. I'm at about 3500 notes and I'm starting to see the earliest glimpses of problems when trying to find specific information. I think that Dendron is being designed with features that explicitly aim to address this problem.
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    michael_rowe

    08/14/2022, 11:30 AM
    I'd also like to automate some of my workflow and I believe that Dendron, because of the fact that it's built on top of VS Code, is more likely to help me achieve this. However, I'm not 100% sure of this. For example, adding metadata in YAML, and then being able to perform actions on notes based on that, seems like something I would find useful. But again, I'm not really sure about this. As I mentioned, there's enough going on with Dendron that I keep coming back to it. But I feel like there's something I'm missing that doesn't allow me to make the most effective use of it.
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    KingJoshington

    08/14/2022, 1:05 PM
    I think I am doing something wrong, because I just got this error message:
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    KingJoshington

    08/14/2022, 1:07 PM
    I am trying to make a hierarchy like:
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    KingJoshington

    08/14/2022, 1:07 PM
    Something like that. Do I need to name my notes like this:
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    KingJoshington

    08/14/2022, 1:08 PM
    I think something hasn't ***quite ***clicked for me ...
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    KingJoshington

    08/14/2022, 1:10 PM
    I see in my graph that PART of what I want is achieved:
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    KingJoshington

    08/14/2022, 1:11 PM
    But I suspect a big problem (because I have misunderstood something, but I don't know what) because when I look closer, I see this:
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    KingJoshington

    08/14/2022, 1:11 PM
    Where each of my notes is sitting off by itself with no further connections ...
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    KingJoshington

    08/14/2022, 2:19 PM
    I found a nice video explaining Dendron in depth (

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfvx8rv77NA&ab_channel=BryanJenks▾

    ) I had a dumb question earlier and this answered it.
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    KingJoshington

    08/14/2022, 2:19 PM
    However, here's a question I'm not sure even how to ask:
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    KingJoshington

    08/14/2022, 2:20 PM
    Is it possible to move everything from root one folder deep?
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    hinogi

    08/14/2022, 2:48 PM
    I have seen that one in the onboarding
    Refactor Hierarchy
    or something
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    rlh1994

    08/14/2022, 3:13 PM
    Folder or level in the note hierarchy? Folder you can't, dendron expects a specific folder structure (yaml above the vault folder) and all your notes to be in the vault folder (probably named notes). If you want to just change the hierarchy then yes the command @hinogi is what you want https://wiki.dendron.so/notes/9zwkp44wnlaa8p8dpt4w8tq/
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