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    ScriptAutomate

    12/16/2021, 8:40 PM
    For those interested, we created a Twitter thread answering questions brought up during the livestream: https://twitter.com/dendronhq/status/1471579014183718913
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    ScriptAutomate

    12/16/2021, 9:32 PM
    Also: some people asked about the extension used in the stream for presenting slides in VSCode. The team was using
    vscode-reveal
    , which uses RevealJS. I'm definitely going to be making use of this. https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=evilz.vscode-reveal
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    vishal.gandhi

    12/18/2021, 12:54 PM
    @User I am exploring the tags feature, after specifying the tags in frontmatter or inline hash tags i select "Goto Note" which creates an empty tag.md file , how do i find notes where i have used the same tag
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    Corte

    12/18/2021, 1:08 PM
    You can see them in the graph view
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    vishal.gandhi

    12/18/2021, 1:14 PM
    How do i see all the notes associated with specific tag ? if i click on the tag in graph view, it points to blank tag.md file
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    kevins8

    12/18/2021, 3:44 PM
    backlinks panel -> https://wiki.dendron.so/notes/gHdxXlNMr1w4xqee0n-Mb.html#7-backlinks-pane in dendron, we build on top of a few foundational primitives, with notes being one of them. everything is a note. tags are just notes and finding tagged notes is done via the backlinks
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    andrey-jef

    12/19/2021, 9:52 AM
    Just have passed by a link on logseq forum, which discusses about the limitations of filename (255 char) with hierarchy structure separated by (.) delimiter. Since Dendron also use this method, I’m curious to know if Dendron is also affected by the limit of 255 char in filename of note? Thanks https://discuss.logseq.com/t/proposal-changing-how-namespaces-function-in-logseq/3727
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    SeriousBug

    12/19/2021, 9:58 AM
    Since that's an operating system level limit, that would affect Dendron as well. 255 characters is pretty long however, and if anyone is hitting that limit we can look into solutions.
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    kevins8

    12/19/2021, 5:18 PM
    this smells like a feature not a bug issue. if you run into that limit, it's an indication that your hierarchy is too long
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    ScriptAutomate

    12/19/2021, 11:10 PM
    What Kevin said: indication of need to re-evaluate the hierarchy. The example file they give is like 25+ deep if a Dendron hierarchy. If the words were smaller than just
    namespace
    repeated, it could be like 40+ deep. At that point, I think something has maybe gone wonky with how something is being managed, hierarchy-wise. If anyone ever runs into it with Dendron, it would be interesting to see how and why. We have tags, for example, that can be used if needed, too.
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    andrey-jef

    12/19/2021, 11:18 PM
    totally agree that 25+ lvl deep hierarchy is outrageous šŸ˜„ the longest hierarchy I've reached is only 68 char. But is it because of this filename limit, that I saw in some schema, they use abbreviation instead of full words? take eg. with this hierarchy
    notes.tutorial.google-sheets-excel.power-query.promote-column-header
    instead of
    tutorial
    , i would have put only
    t
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    kevins8

    12/19/2021, 11:25 PM
    that could also be refactored down the line. the way it would look inside my workspace for reference
    s.google-sheets.ref.power-query
    where
    s = service
    I generally try to keep my hierarchies short (avg is 2-4 levels deep). I would then have the following inside the note
    Copy code
    md
    ## Cookbook
    
    ### Promote Column Header
    ...
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    andrey-jef

    12/19/2021, 11:32 PM
    I get your point. And I will practice it to experiment. But if I paraphrase your message, it implies that Dendron does not encourage to make atomic notes. Do you think so?
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    kevins8

    12/19/2021, 11:42 PM
    I wouldn't say that. Rather, Dendron's recommendation is to only break notes down to atoms when you need to - aka amoeba: https://wiki.dendron.so/notes/e780000d-c784-4945-8e42-35218a3ecf10.html When you first study about a new topic, its often not clear a) where the boundaries of different topics are b) how you will use those topics in your work Instead of predicting what things might be atoms, you can refactor things later when you find that its useful to do so. In architecture, there's this concept of a "discovered path" where you don't lay down trails in the fields in the onset but give people a chance to walk over it for a year. Afterwards, you see where the grass was most heavily treaded and put down paths along trails that people have made through use (vs trying to predict how they will use it at the onset) The amoeba pattern is the PKM equivalent of that
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    benhsm | Jack of N trades

    12/19/2021, 11:45 PM
    Just reporting my experience: I have several domains which contain only atomic notes. I'm not having problems so far, but perhaps I haven't been doing things this way long enough / often enough to run into issues. My note names in these contexts are unabbreviated, so they can get somewhat long (e.g.
    zet.systems.hierarchy.partially-decomposable
    , but I've yet to have any reason to go more than 4 levels deep
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    benhsm | Jack of N trades

    12/19/2021, 11:47 PM
    I use the amoeba pattern when I'm exploring a question and the note I'm on reaches critical mass, but on occasion I've also merged several atomic notes into a single subsuming hierarchy when hitherto unseen relations between them became apparent
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    foureyedsoul

    12/20/2021, 2:22 AM
    I'd also chime in to say that in my experience, structure and note size is more obvious for some topics. With others, these are more emergent. Features like sibling navigation and parent/child navigation make it easier to use atomic notes in Dendron than in any other platform I've tried.
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    ManupaS

    12/20/2021, 5:21 AM
    Hey guys
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    ManupaS

    12/20/2021, 5:22 AM
    is it possible to rename the title in "root.md"
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    SeriousBug

    12/20/2021, 5:22 AM
    You can give it a different title (title: ... in the frontmatter), but you can't rename the note. You have to have
    root.md
    .
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    ManupaS

    12/20/2021, 5:48 AM
    Noted and Thanks.
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    Y'all Atreides

    12/20/2021, 6:15 PM
    I can't remember who I was chatting about awhile back with dendron/todoist integrations, but I noticed that todoist released an SDK for their API recently https://developer.todoist.com/guides/#our-sdks
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    kevins8

    12/20/2021, 6:27 PM
    might make for a good pod integration
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    Y'all Atreides

    12/20/2021, 6:28 PM
    i'll have to look more into that, haven't dove into the dev side of dendron.... yet
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    kevins8

    12/20/2021, 6:28 PM
    haha, whenever you do, ping me in #748936364283920495 happy to give pointers on good places to get started
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    user

    12/20/2021, 10:59 PM
    Hello. Not sure where to put this. It's the getting started page.
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    user

    12/20/2021, 11:00 PM
    That's in safari. I checked chrome and it looks okay there.
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    kevins8

    12/20/2021, 11:18 PM
    thanks for the tip, issue with our css which we'll address
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    wutanc

    12/21/2021, 9:07 PM
    @User sorry to ping you but not sure where to comment on it, https://wiki.dendron.so/ seems rather broken for me. Tried both chrome and firefox. Getting some kind of next.js error and it starts reloading
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    kevins8

    12/21/2021, 9:39 PM
    would prefer you ping me in these cases. it was an issue with an update. i just pushed a fix so it should be good now
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