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    HeyyyyJinn

    11/18/2020, 12:43 AM
    Ill refactor and clarify that database GUI idea with screenshots before i bring it up again.
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    HeyyyyJinn

    11/18/2020, 12:44 AM
    I second that proposal! I wonder if its possible to make the graph preview foldable, drill-down-able, and dragable like a mindmap?
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    HeyyyyJinn

    11/18/2020, 12:44 AM
    Im pretty intrigued by the drag-and-drop refactoring of this: https://blog.documentnode.io/refactor-your-markdown-in-a-mind-map
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    HeyyyyJinn

    11/18/2020, 12:47 AM
    I havnt tried it or reached out to the dev yet. Right now I use Xmind to import markdown files, refactor the heading hierarchy as a mindmap, and export them back to markdown, but it loses image data.
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    kevins8

    11/18/2020, 1:33 AM
    anything is possible with code 🙂 that being said, we'll probably be looking into separate views at first (eg. dedicated graph view and dedicated mindmap view) and look for ways of merging them later
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    user

    11/18/2020, 5:28 AM
    @kevins8 Hi Kevin. After a long time I had a chance to look into dendron well. So far I am liking it. Sans the absence of a mobile app to create notes with corresponding frontmatter, dendron is a highly recommendable choice for note taking. 2 errors I came across. In documentation, the shortcuts for creating scratch and journal seems to the switched in here https://www.dendron.so/notes/a7c3a810-28c8-4b47-96a6-8156b1524af3#note-toggle Also if all files in the vault is closed and you press ctrl+shift+j, the journal lookup seems not pre filled
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    user

    11/18/2020, 5:36 AM
    Also, is there a way to tab complete in the lookup bar? Like typing den+tab will complete it to first suggestion
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    Bassmann

    11/18/2020, 6:42 AM
    > Also, is there a way to tab complete in the lookup bar? Like typing den+tab will complete it to first suggestion @User AFAIK this isn't possible at least right now due to limitations of vscode in this space
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    user

    11/18/2020, 6:42 AM
    Oh. Thanks for the info
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    kevins8

    11/18/2020, 4:01 PM
    @User thanks for the typo, just fixed! as for why journal note is not pre-filled, it will append the journal hierarchy to the hierarchy of the current opened note. if nothing is open, it will just be blank
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    kevins8

    11/18/2020, 4:01 PM
    also heads up that you just earned the
    @Taxonomist
    role for catching a typo 😅
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    user

    11/18/2020, 4:01 PM
    Aha!!
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    HeyyyyJinn

    11/18/2020, 8:18 PM
    @User I suggest Epsilon Notes ($5) or Markor (FOSS) for creating dendron-compatible notes with YAML frontmatter. My own setup isnt complete yet, but Ill be getting ot that this week.
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    user

    11/18/2020, 9:25 PM
    I didn't plan to tune in to the dendron office hours as it's well past my bedtime here. But as I was trying to sleep I had an idea for a project I'm working on. And I just had to test it! No sleep till I know if it works)). So I got up to check and as a bonus caught a part of Kevin's stream. The idea of a web UI is what excites me most as VSCode seems like a too heavy tool for some of the stuff I write). Like the mood of a code editor feels wrong for writing about the kids' antics)). It's fun to imagine Dendron eventually overgrowing the VSCode scaffolding and standing on its own 🌲
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    kevins8

    11/18/2020, 9:28 PM
    @User thanks for tuning in 🙂
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    kevins8

    11/18/2020, 9:31 PM
    did your project work?
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    user

    11/18/2020, 9:31 PM
    totally did 💃
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    HeyyyyJinn

    11/18/2020, 11:14 PM
    I'll make an request for keeping the userdata behavior local first as a core value. A second brain should be owned by the user (sorry Roam) and not restricted by things like availability of a data connection (Sorry Notion) or a specific tech stack (sorry Org Mode). If it can be reasonable operated on by user usertools like grep that other search tools are build on, then navigating and using the second brain should still work 20 years down the line.
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    HeyyyyJinn

    11/18/2020, 11:16 PM
    Dendron already has several key features that make its user data rather universal: Encoding the hierarchy structure as a human-understandable filename, its openable and searchable by any file manager, and the plaintext markdown format that's like a digital blank canvas
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    HeyyyyJinn

    11/18/2020, 11:23 PM
    Use case: Last weekend I synched my vault to my phone(it couldve be an android, iphone, or my 10 year old Blackberry) with dropbox(it couldve been drag and drop, rsync, or any data transfer tool) and went bouldering at Joshua Tree, and took some useful, hyperlinked notes when inspiration struck. I had no VSCode and no data connection, but made good use of my Dendron second brain. I thought that was beautiful, and it could not have been possible with Notion/ Onenote/Roam.
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    HeyyyyJinn

    11/18/2020, 11:35 PM
    I mentioned the 10 year old blackberry because compatibility with past tech stacks might be a good indicator of compatibility with future tech stacks. We don't know what the file formats, media storage, or UI standards of 2040 would look like, but its reasonable to assume the concepts of files, filenames, filedirectories, and text will still be there, so Dendron vaults can survive for years with thier hierarchy and links intact, just as the previous generations' Unix notes stayed with them through every tech upgrade.
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    kevins8

    11/18/2020, 11:37 PM
    @User so its not literally local first but one of dendron's principles is full ownership and interoperability by the user of their data: https://dendron.so/notes/7fcebd7d-6411-4c9d-8baf-65629dc018a1.html#ownership also, just to clarify in case it wasn't clear, we are talking about a web ui on top of running Dendron locally. all your data on your computer but with all the power of a modern web app :) for an example, @User is working on a form builder to make it easier to edit dendron without yml. this will be based on dendron's web ui: https://github.com/dendronhq/dendron/pull/351
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    kevins8

    11/18/2020, 11:41 PM
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    HeyyyyJinn

    11/18/2020, 11:52 PM
    @User I get that feeling too! I sometimes use Typora or Sublime text to view and write my Dendron notes depending on use, and like to change up the Typora/Sublime theme to suit the occasion and mood. I'm looking for an android app where I can add text through a dialogue box for simple one liner notes or status updates.
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    anochvay

    11/19/2020, 8:32 AM
    It seems, that dendron loses emoji in
    desc
    field if you use schemas
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    anochvay

    11/19/2020, 8:33 AM
    For example, i got
    desc: "\U0001F4F7"
    instead of
    desc: '📷'
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    kevins8

    11/19/2020, 3:53 PM
    @User can you submit a bug report? we need to save the emojis!
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    anochvay

    11/19/2020, 3:54 PM
    > @User can you submit a bug report? we need to save the emojis! @User ok 🙂
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    brimwats

    11/20/2020, 10:09 AM
    I literally enjoy writing in VS code more than anything else. I dunno, it's just a perfect experience for me. love the file hierarchy tree and the folders and I love cartograph/operator mono/firacode
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    brimwats

    11/20/2020, 10:11 AM
    I also like having it on my server / computer and laptop and having it all be the same experience, but yeah I guess most people like writing elsewhere. not quite to writing academic papers in it, but I sure wish..
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