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# citrix-netscalers
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Deyda
10/26/2020, 5:33 PMWhich adm version?!
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Neal Dolson
10/26/2020, 5:33 PM13.0 52.24
Neal Dolson
10/26/2020, 5:34 PMI'm assuming some new functionality was introduced in 12.1 or something and the parameters/config save is related to it but I'm not having much luck in the googles figuring out what it is
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Deyda
10/26/2020, 5:35 PMNope this is not a normal behavior
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Neal Dolson
10/26/2020, 5:37 PMWhat's odd is when I go into ADM and look at the events for that ADC instance, it only shows the most recent param/save events, even though it's happened 3 times prior.
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Mads Petersen
10/26/2020, 8:32 PMIs ADM service enabled? (show adm parameter in cli should tell you) i've disabled it on all my upgrades, but i'm wondering if that might be the reason.
Can you check the timestamps on the ns.conf files in /nsconfig/ to see if they really get saved so often?
ADM service: https://docs.citrix.com/en-us/citrix-adc/12-1/adm-service-connect.html
Data governance: https://docs.citrix.com/en-us/citrix-adc/12-1/data-governance.html
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Neal Dolson
10/26/2020, 8:40 PMYeah there's a new ns.conf file every 30 minutes for the last couple of hours
Neal Dolson
10/26/2020, 8:42 PMCitrix ADM Service Connect is disabled
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Mads Petersen
10/26/2020, 8:45 PMthe set appflow parameter is to configure the global appflow params, does that CMD happens before each save?
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Neal Dolson
10/26/2020, 8:46 PMyes it does
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Mads Petersen
10/26/2020, 8:49 PMAre there anything in the log beforehand? I don't have a good idea why it would modify the appflow params, i haven't seen it other places so far.
I can try to ask someone from the ADM team if no one else have a idea.
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Neal Dolson
10/26/2020, 8:52 PMI opened a ticket but it got assigned a low priority (it is) so I assume I wont hear back for a bit. It looks like ADM has set itself as an AppFlow connector (I havent gone about getting HDX Insight or anything plumbed up yet) so I thought maybe it was some byproduct of a partially incomplete config or something.
Neal Dolson
10/26/2020, 9:07 PMI compared the 11.1 based ns.conf file to the 12.1 ns.conf file....the 11.1 based ns.conf file has nothing in it regarding "appflow" when searched, the 12.1 file has it as an enabled feature, creates the collector, and enables AppFlow events. I'll try disabling the AppFlow advanced feature and see if that fixes it.
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Mads Petersen
10/26/2020, 9:14 PMSo if you do cat ns.conf.NS11.1-xx.xx | grep appflow in the /nsconfig/ folder nothing is returned?
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Neal Dolson
10/26/2020, 9:14 PMcorrect
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Mads Petersen
10/26/2020, 9:15 PMSo did you manually add monitoring after the upgrade? It sounded like in the initial post that it was enabled before.
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Neal Dolson
10/26/2020, 9:15 PMIt's monitored by ADM but we don't have AppFlow configured
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Mads Petersen
10/26/2020, 9:16 PMSo how did you monitor it before, if you didn't have a collector configured? because a grep appflow, should so something like add appflow collector bla bla bla
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Neal Dolson
10/26/2020, 9:17 PMBy monitor I mean it is an instance added to ADM, SNMP is configured, we alert for the presence of certain events, etc
Neal Dolson
10/26/2020, 9:19 PMDisabling the AppFlow advanced feature had no effect FWIW
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