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k
There’s no fighting $$$ or € € €. Citrix just didn’t get the value out of the investement.
a
Do you really agree to “vanish” Citrix Synergy Europe? I’m not. In the same time VMware didn’t stop with VMWorld Barcelona
k
I’m not saying I agree, I’m saying I understand if the marketing spend doesn’t return direct business. Which is the main reason for those events..
n
it's dollars and sense. vmw is 3x the size of citrix in revenue i think, $3B vs $9B or so
a
OK - but I don't understand something. Citrix Synergy is not a free event. We as clients pay - maybe some clients get free admission tickets? Such an event is an investment and helps to strengthen the brand.
n
they need X number of customers and vendors to cover the costs, my guess is that attendance was slow and it was running into the red
j
Yep probably wasn’t worth cost vs the return they get.
a
Everyone focuses on the costs in this conversation - almost every company has a budget for promotions and I can not imagine that the main goal for Citrix was to earn money on Citrix Synergy evnet .. In my opinion, the organization Citrix Synergy is a lot of work and Citrix got rid of a whole series organizational work.
k
They’ve on boarded the CUGCs since then so I don’t think it’s laziness as those are even more time consuming.
j
We should do a joint European super-CUGC event over a couple of days
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k
We’ve had talks about that, the Dutch team is game
j
UK would be too (not to speak for the entire steering group, but I have no doubt they'd agree)
a
@James Rankin before or after Brexit? 😉
k
Ruh roh!
j
I said Europe-wide, not EU-wide 😉
a
lol
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EMEA 👍
Would be really great to organize Super-CUGC Europe
c
APAC
t
CUGC is willing to help make happen only a limited number of XL events each year, hence if anyone is truly interested, please contact @Stephanie Boozer so that she is aware of any serious such undertakings.
k
All the larger EMEA groups are independent from the cugc @Tobias Kreidl
t
Good point, Kees.