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Kasper Johansen
04/27/2021, 6:52 AM@Thomas Poppelgaard is the MoonShot master 😄
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Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:00 AMyes its worth using and its 2x more performance with memory as m710x and more cores :) and it works great with gpu accelerating gdi workload such as office
Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:01 AMand I would even use it for HCI the m750 :) but thats another conversation
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Arthur
04/27/2021, 7:02 AMHow many users do you have per cassette?
Arthur
04/27/2021, 7:02 AMWe need to run RDSH on this..
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Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:02 AMI need to ask some customers as I know many use it in prod :) been running for a while
Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:03 AMis this pure rdsh or citrix or vmwarev
Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:04 AMbut again the design i have seen that was implemented is 2x more users than m710x but let me validate real numbers
Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:04 AMalso depends which OS
Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:04 AMand which apps
Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:04 AMall depends 🙃
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Arthur
04/27/2021, 7:04 AMIt will be Horizon - to make it easier we would like to use VMware ESXi
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Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:04 AMthen you will lower the numbers by adding a hypervisor
Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:05 AMhypervisor also consume compute but i get why you want to do that because of management
Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:05 AMand its fully supported with esx and horizon
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Arthur
04/27/2021, 7:05 AMNot sure if Horizon will be able to deliver image on m750 without hypervisor…
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Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:06 AMit can :) its supported with bare metal
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Arthur
04/27/2021, 7:06 AMCool. Are you using RDSH on m750?
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Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:06 AMyes
Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:06 AMuse pure rdsh but also horizon and citrix
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Arthur
04/27/2021, 7:06 AMHow many users per server?
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Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:06 AMi did early testing before it was ga
Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:07 AMBut mine is in a “lab” but i worked with several who put it in prod for xxxx ccu users
Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:07 AMso i can get numbers
Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:07 AMbut it will take a few days
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Arthur
04/27/2021, 7:08 AMWould be nice to see numbers. Thanks in advance
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Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:08 AMI can also connect you with internal teams at hpe
Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:08 AMso you can get access to more data
Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:09 AMthat would be fastes route
Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:09 AMI have ask about numbers for you to a customer
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Arthur
04/27/2021, 7:10 AMI’m already in contact with sales guy from HP. I will ask hin for more technical data especially for VDI / RDSH. Do you have any recommendations about what they can have interesting?
Arthur
04/27/2021, 7:10 AMCool thanks
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Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:12 AMwho are you speaking with?
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Arthur
04/27/2021, 7:12 AMPawel Krakowian from Poland HPE
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Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:14 AMokay :) else talk with Brian Duffy or Mathai Philip
Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:14 AMbut pretty. sure pawel will get you info
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Arthur
04/27/2021, 7:17 AM👍
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Kasper Johansen
04/27/2021, 7:18 AMSorry to wake you up @Thomas Poppelgaard 😛
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Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:18 AMbut its rock solid the m750 i been running it 24-7 for a year now
Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:18 AMLOL @Kasper Johansen happy to help
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Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:19 AMI am up 6.30 so you didnt wake me up
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Kasper Johansen
04/27/2021, 7:19 AMI know 🙂
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Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:19 AM🤣 small kids
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Arthur
04/27/2021, 7:19 AMCool. I’m very interested about some details from someone who’s already using m750 with VMware Horizon. What’s user experience and how many users “per server”
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Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:20 AM@Dane Young do you got numbers
Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:21 AMbut i can share user experience is awesome with horizon
Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:23 AMdid you see this https://assets.ext.hpe.com/is/content/hpedam/a50003806enw
Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:24 AMThomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:26 AM@Arthur i got some numbers back they have 30ccu on now
Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:30 AMyou can use that number
Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:31 AMthere is no much difference between citrix and vmware but with pure rds you will get even more users
Thomas Poppelgaard
04/27/2021, 7:32 AMwhat is your magic number @Arthur you are looking for?
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Arthur
04/27/2021, 7:49 AMThanks for numbers. Currently we are using rack servers with 4 VM’s and ~28 users per VM without graphics acceleration.
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Nick Casagrande
04/27/2021, 1:31 PMcarl webster also has info on moonshot as well i think he did a blog a while back
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Dane Young
04/27/2021, 3:42 PM@Thomas Poppelgaard our M750 with Horizon performance study was focused on single user experience with Windows 10. We did not do a multi-session or multi-user density test with Windows Server 2019, although I know from testing that Horizon RDSH on M750 works quite well. Let me know if you have specific questions after reviewing the whitepaper, @Arthur: https://psnow.ext.hpe.com/doc/a50003806enw
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Arthur
04/27/2021, 3:43 PMThanks
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