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Love it, customising it is painful too.
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it all worked in my demo lab, obviously because every folder contained 3 shortcuts. I asked support to dig into it and start reproducing in an empty DB and bammm instantly it didn't work, after adding another shortcut and refreshing the session MS showed the folder too.
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I can't even compute the design logic there… unbelievable. Best thing is, that's a conscious decision to design that, and then it would have been reviewed, and the released. Why why why
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we're waiting for MS to let software vendors manage the "Pinned" section of the new start menu During the session so that we can instantly/context aware add and remove pinned items just like in W10. Don't think they will give us anything as they already provide the JSON/XML import for the OEM vendors like Dell/Lenovo to create the initial customized Pinned items. There's so much work to do until W11 is really production.
n
I have only played around in W11 in VMware Workstation, and really only like the rounded corners. The rest of the OS can follow kale on it's way to the trash can.
d
it's a horrible locked-down beast to program into and for the end-users... there's so much missing functionality that was there for years. It was forced onto my device and the good thing is that if there's an HKCU or local profile solution for any of my annoyances, then I have that baked into the product so my customers can change behavior in 1 click :)
n
In one click? I guess we're not talking about W11's right-click context menu...
boom
We modify the Start menu on physical devices here, as well as in Citrix Desktop, so I'm not at all looking forward to adopting W11. But given all of the other things that need to be worked out, I'd bet it's at least another year before we see a Prod W11 device in our environment. Maybe if HP stops shipping hardware with W10.
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@Nick Panaccio one click and you have your old context menu back 😉 . I got 12 of those easy things now and the list is growing.
n
Which utility is that? The fact that you have to do this to bring back basic functionality is enough for me to push back on adopting it.
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Ivanti Workspace Control AKA the old RES Workspace Manager/Powerfuse. And yes, there's also still a free version that can do this in 1 click.
n
Ah, gotcha, I'd just use WEM if it's only a registry value then.
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ahh I lied, 11 of them checkboxes, the last one I added was that W10 weather thing
n
Yeah, some of those I already kill via GPO.
For W10, I mean. Like that weather nonsense, and the pictures that now show up in Search.
d
yeah horrible
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I've done it at enterprise, there was a lot of compromises for sure. I wouldn't recommend it if you're used to customising the start menu. If you pin web links... Forget it.
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I have searched for a free version on Ivanti‘s website, @Dennis van Dam. Didn't found anything. Do you have a link coincidentally?
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thank you mate
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installation information can be found here: IWC Basic Installation: https://player.vimeo.com/video/622582349 IWC Agent Installation: https://player.vimeo.com/video/613977585
please note that if it's not a production env. then you can skip the windows authentication part, simply stick with SQL authentication and leave the service on Local System, that will spare you some minutes of work
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