I am trying to hire a very solid Intune/SCCM/cloud...
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c
I am trying to hire a very solid Intune/SCCM/cloud resource, no luck so far
j
We've been looking for one as well for some time... no luck for 4 months
e
Just allow WFH, done. I’m available part time @Jon Bucud
c
No WFH but the pay is good ...
e
I will post on X to get you some @Cláudio Rodrigues
l
If in 4 months, a good resource can't be found, the pay isn't good enough to justify the lack of WFH. Should tell you what that's worth now...
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c
Define good pay
l
How long is a piece of string? There's too many unknowns to give a proper range even. Is this a senior, mid-level, or entry level position? I presume it's for Citadel - what locations are approved? Miami, Austin, Houston, Dallas, San Francisco, and Chicago?
Also, since they are so committed to RTO, are they willing to pay for relocation?
c
Senior, NYC. 500k+ for the right resource
s
Based on the expected level, location, and what I’ve heard about Citadel’s reputation, you might not be offering enough money…
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l
While 500K is surely above market pay, it may be telling if someone would avoid NYC and in person work for half the pay.
Also, is that USD or CAD? Looks more like CAD
c
USD
It is certainly not a place for the faint of heart. But many senior guys are way above that pay and have been around for years. You will work with some of the best in the industry
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j
For 500 grand a year I'll go and do whatever you want.
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l
Definitely do some reading up on the culture at Citadel. "Not for the faint of heart" is a VERY nice way to describe it.
c
Some people did not want 700K
j
Our search has been much less formal, there’s no open req/job listing. It’s more of a 'right place, right time' situation. If we happen to come across the right person, we have the green light to move forward. "Looking" has been limited by those on our team already, and extended to their circles. (It's also not _>_500k USD 🙃)
s
You sound surprised that people would turn down $700k a year @Cláudio Rodrigues
j
For that money I would work in a kitchen with serial murderers, no f*cks given
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c
I am surprised as on the same token people complain it is tough out there... This is a lot of money on any city on the planet
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r
I agree with James. LOL
s
I’d turn it down if it didn’t fit in with the most important job that I have.
r
life?
But fuck, i'd do that job for like 5 years, then retire...
s
Life. And being an involved parent.
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l
In NYC, that doesn't go as far as you think
g
Spanish Inquisition
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r
700k... even if it cost me 200k/year to live. win...
even at like 6k/month rent... that works out
l
6k a month is barely a 1 bedroom apt
r
i could deal with almost anything for 5 years, to then retire...
j
Too right. I'd sleep in a youth hostel, whatever it took
c
Not the case. You can live in NJ, two stops from WTC. Rent in the $3500 range for 3bd
I am in Grove St
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c
Takes me 15 min to where GS is at 200W
40 min to Citadel
Note that some people make 7 figures on my team
It is a job that will push you out of your comfort zone for sure but I love that
You grow
j
Bet you do, with all the steaks you can buy
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c
Ah steaks and caviar what a combo
My happy meal
r
lol
l
Is it full 996 culture there? Most of the reviews lean that way. Granted it's not aliexpess pay, but 996 ain't great no matter the pay.
c
Nope not 996 culture. It is demanding, sure it is. But that pushes you to work smart
l
I guess at least with everyone in the office you avoid zoom meetings fully, so that would be a plus. /sarcasm. I bet there's still a bunch isn't there?
r
No Zoom meetings.. Just Teams.... 😄
s
Teams? Hard pass! 🤣
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c
Reason is the team is global
People in London, Singapore etc
Easier for all of us to hop on zoom vs one in London and all others in a room with a single camera
That said a lot happens at the office
Like we chat, go out for coffee to brainstorm
Etc
So yes it is a mix of real in person meetings a s Zoom/Teams
l
Realistically, what is the average work load? Reviews suggest a minimum 60hrs, and lots of Saturday, "why aren't you here" calls. You said a lot of guys have been there a while, but every review says very high turnover, even in tech. There is a big difference in a place that 'pushes you to grow' vs just wanting you in the seat doing ktlo stuff 70-80hrs a week. If you need to work smarter, automating things to run so you don't have to be there send like the way to go. Also see they can't seem to keep people at the Miami location much at all. 500k+ for Miami and no snow? That would be hard to pass up!
c
Real workload in the 40-50h a week. You are on call every 2 months for a week where they expect you to answer a call within 15 min. Turnover did exist but it is settling now as we are definitely better at doing things properly vs doing things super fast
Still fast but way more thought going into what we do
j
Well the thing with being in London is you can put plenty of hours in as there is nothing else to do outside of work :-)
r
lol
r
bummer i can't relocate LOL
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@Cláudio Rodrigues it’s onsite only and not opened for foreign citizens? 😉
c
Onsite only. Not sure about Visa but can ask
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