Thanks guys, I had another login issue that seemed to happen at the same time after auth with a spinning wheel before enumerating SF. I have disabled aaa caching and ensured the affected users got a fresh reset and so far so good. Thanks for the feedback... @CTXMike the errors in the delivery services log on SF reported the account was in fact locked out so hoping thats all it was. Thought Id ask on here, IVe done this type of deployment at least 10 times but this one has been plagued with issues, ta