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Neal Dolson
05/04/2023, 7:56 PMWe have someone trying to push a POC of it into our environment, and while it sounds like an interesting piece of software, we didn't quickly identify a lot of use cases/needs for it internally, and it's feeling a bit tail wagging the dog for us. Curious to hear what others' thoughts/experiences are.
Neal Dolson
05/04/2023, 7:59 PMIn Feb 2022 there was a lot of press about them "coming out of stealth with a billion dollar valuation" which all contained that specific verbiage and seemed a little suspicious to me, like it was part of a guerrilla marketing campaign or something.
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Jarian Gibson
05/04/2023, 8:09 PM@Patrick Coble ⤴️
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Oz Zy
05/05/2023, 2:41 AMDef would take a look at Citrix SPA as well if going that route
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Patrick Coble
05/05/2023, 11:00 AMI have worked with most in this market and its interesting how they are still in stealth years later
Patrick Coble
05/05/2023, 11:01 AMFeatures and ease of use are Citrix, Talon and Island
Patrick Coble
05/05/2023, 11:01 AMAll others including google are playing catch-up and leapfrog
Patrick Coble
05/05/2023, 11:02 AMIf you already are using Citrix then it’s real easy to use their solution.
Patrick Coble
05/05/2023, 11:02 AMEspecially if you have internal web apps. Other solutions will require ZTNA or VPN solutions for those.
Patrick Coble
05/05/2023, 11:18 AMWhen you need a NDA to see a demo you won’t see a lot of anything about these vendors. I have seen most of their consoles when I was doing the blog but I can never show any of that which really stinks for the EUC community.
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Rachel Berry
05/05/2023, 11:51 AMYears ago I did a phase of reviewing remote/hardened browser things for techtarget... the demos are really underwhelming basically it should feel like using a normal web browser.... The differentiators came with things like if you were in Hong Kong did you get the weather in Singapore or locally - in some GEOs it can get a bit weird if it thinks you are in a different country... https://www.techtarget.com/searchsecurity/opinion/How-does-Menlo-Securitys-remote-browser-compare-in-an-ever-more-crowded-space Menlo then was the big hot ticket (this was probably before Citrix did much) - the one really interesting one though that the spooks types were interested in was hardware not software based https://www.techtarget.com/searchenterprisedesktop/opinion/Garrisons-unique-hardware-based-remote-browsing-brings-some-interesting-advantages
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Neal Dolson
05/05/2023, 1:04 PMThanks for the info everyone, I looked at Citrix Secure Browser a couple years ago but haven't paid much attention since.
Neal Dolson
05/05/2023, 1:34 PM@Rachel Berry thanks for the links! this excerpt here summarizes my feelings with a "secure browser" specifically in our environment, when we already have a mature Citrix VAD environment available that supports a mix of VDI, RDS, and BYOD use cases - it seems like it's a solution in search of a problem for us.
Neal Dolson
05/05/2023, 1:34 PM“I struggled with the use case for this functionality and wondered why anyone would need it. But for IT organizations that subscribe to web apps exclusively, the low cost for Citrix Secure Browser may indeed be warranted.” My own sentiment now is that with Menlo, Symantec, WEBGAP, and others offering a focused SaaS product, the Citrix Secure Browser falls into that weird category where it probably isn’t relevant to the mainstream virtualized Citrix EUC/VDI customer.
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Oz Zy
05/05/2023, 1:38 PM@Neal Dolson not Citrix secure browser. Enterprise browser. It's a fully built in chromium based browser with CWA. Extensions, favs everything like normal. And you can wrap watermarking, restricting copy/paste, etc around it then
Oz Zy
05/05/2023, 1:38 PMEspecially for endpoints already having CWA, you have it right now in their install. Spa just unlocks what you can do with it
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Neal Dolson
05/05/2023, 1:39 PMNice, I'll take a look at that. Haven't really bothered because I haven't seen a need for it with our existing application set, the topic is just kinda being foisted upon us so now I'm dealing with it.
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Rachel Berry
05/05/2023, 1:44 PMIf you had a problem and are already Citrix the enterprise browser which does stuff like stop screenshots / sticks transparent QR codes over docs so makes harder to take a photo on a mobile or screenshot etc would probably be the first one you evaluate.... law firms and insurance companies seem to quite like it - I think a third party SaaS type offering would be a bit of an odd choice if Citrix / Enterprise type org already though - unless there's some killer niche feature needed for compliance... a good ad blocker solves a lot of browsing security issues and saves bandwidth...
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