and also did you guys discussed this <https://www....
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PePe Amengual
10/16/2026, 4:36 PMand also did you guys discussed this https://www.codecentric.de/en/knowledge-hub/blog/terraform-is-the-wrong-tool-for-building-internal-developer-platforms ?
PePe Amengual
10/16/2026, 4:37 PMI was very skeptical at reading it but there is some truth to a lot of it
PePe Amengual
10/16/2026, 4:38 PM@Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) @Matt Gowie ( since you tried crossplane)
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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
10/16/2026, 4:41 PMI can't recall, but I know I replied on LinkedIn
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
10/16/2026, 4:42 PMI agree, it's also why we support publishing to deployment repos in atmos. E.g. even if you use FluxCD, ArgoCD, Crossplane, you still need a process for that.
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
10/16/2026, 4:42 PMAlso, I think the article is fair:
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
10/16/2026, 4:43 PMI see so many of these things slamming Terraform, but stick everything in Kubernetes; but I don't think it's as simple as that.
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PePe Amengual
10/16/2026, 4:43 PMyes, and the TLDR of the article point out that TF is really good at landing zone and slow changing infra etc
PePe Amengual
10/16/2026, 4:44 PMbut not for the fast changing app infra on top of the foundational resources etc
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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
10/16/2026, 4:45 PMI also think there's another side to this that I remain skeptical about; not that it can't be done, but that with my strongly held beliefs won't be done well. It's one of the things we emphasize in atmos and atmos pro. When your services reach into the hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands, understanding what is deployed is impossible
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
10/16/2026, 4:46 PMIn atmos pro, this is central to the whole product. So you get cross repo visibility in a centralized control plane.
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
10/16/2026, 4:48 PMWhat services are flapping/permadrift? What are are the deprecation warnings? what are the terraform failures? and looking at that across regions?
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
10/16/2026, 4:49 PMI'm much more bullish about things like KRO, ACK + ArgoCD/Flux than I am about crossplane
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
10/16/2026, 4:50 PM@Matt Gowie @PePe Amengual et al, it would be a great discussion
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