We're thinking about moving our community to disco...
# general
t
We're thinking about moving our community to discord since the community management tools there are more in line for open source projects than slack. Wanted to get a quick poll here if you're into that or against it - appreciate your vote
j
Also Slack is really annoying, it keeps expiring the invite link.
a
I have nothing against Discord per se, just the proliferation of platforms. This is one of five Slack workspaces I'm in - all in one app. If you move, I'd have to decide whether or not to install, run, and make an account on Discord just for this. (I assume that's the primary reason others šŸ‘Ž as well.)
t
yeah I also have the same feeling, it's annoying to have things split in multiple places
I really wish slack wasn't making our use case harder while simultaneously charging us
a
Paying per user? Just to not loose history?
s
Exact same situation as @Adam Fanello. I’m in six Slack workspaces, no Discord ones. I used to be in a bunch of Discord ones when I was deep in blockchain land, but now that I’ve come back to the land of the living, I’m Slack only.
t
Yeah history + search are probably the major reasons we got pushed into paying and unfortunately they don't recognize open communities as seperate pricing so they do charge us per user. Thankfully it's per "active" user but it still adds up, close to 500 MAUs now
d
Despite being the defacto option for open source communities, Slack does actually suck at it pretty badly, for reasons stated above. That being said, I am with the others and I probably wouldnt switch.
a
šŸ˜ž I'd understand if you switched. Discord would probably be relegated to a browser tab that I pay less attention to though.
d
Maybe there is some tool that pulls from slack into a kind of wiki? Search that? Granted, not as low maintenance, but also far more curated, which may save the masses time. Anything would be less than several grand a month, though.
a
Dump it all into Elasticsearch. šŸ˜‰
t
not serverless
a
Neither is Slack.
t
side note I think adam and derek's votes should only count as 1 since they always agree on everything!
k
I'm also mainly on slack these days, but can also understand the motivation for moving. While my Discord experience hasn't been that good so far, the great team and community here might perhaps convince me to tryout something like Stack. It seems to combines accounts across several services + support Discord and Slack.
c
I’m also mainly on slack, but I’d switch to discord to help you guys. about the history I think you can automate a migration using both APIs another con is that I’ve found the @SST Support bot and I don’t think you guys’d be able to build something like that on discord because the bots don’t have a home page (as far as I know)
just please don’t switch to microsoft teams šŸ™
g
Discord would be nice. I hate slack with a passion šŸ˜‚
d
The only dev community I have left that is in Slack is this one. Stately, Vite... Everything I care about lately has moved to discord.
r
I'm about 30%/70% Slack/Discord these days for communities. Discord def has vastly better tools for community management at this point. Just being able to moderate the community is a big boon too as it grows.
t
The SST community has never been more polarized
a
I’m all in for Discord lol, I’m not in many communities but this is the only one on Slack (was pretty surprised at first). Also, what reaaaaly annoys me on Slack is that you can’t customize the channel sidebar globally… everyone has to customize on his own and by default they are all dumped in one section…
b
I'm mostly on Slack, but wouldn't mind moving to Discord. If it supports your use case better, then I'm all in šŸ‘
r
I use Discord for a number of other communities (Vue Land, Buefy, Oruga, Nine Inch Nails, TypeScript, Vite Land, etc) and Slack for a smaller number of communities so I’m already committed to both. Switching wouldn’t bother me.
s
I will download Teams if that's where the community is. I like Discord and wouldn't mind it at all.
f
I’ve been wondering from the start how you all were making Slack work financially given the pricing structure. I LOVE that this community is on Slack, I am way more used to Slack (for business) than Discord… But there is no denying that this is not a use case that Slack is encouraging, and pretty much all other open source related communities have moved to Discord. From a personal standpoint I would very much prefer that this community stays on Slack, but if I were in your shoes I would move it to Discord in a heartbeat for the financial reasons alone.
d
Personally, I’d rather any resources spent on slack be spent writing content and docs for SST
c
I'm in so many communities where this debate is currently ongoing šŸ™ˆ One thing I have to say is that I have seen more than 1 community go to discord to die, but admittedly those were more business focused and less tech focused. I think you are more likely to have tech folk on discord. But slack has the benefit that most companies are here, so its easy for someone to hop on over from their company chat. One potential solution (haven't seen anyone use them yet) is something like https://www.linen.dev/
a
Seems like linen is more of a search engine that indexes conversations rather than a discussion/chat service (though it's a cool idea)
t
Yeah I've seen Linen, looks nice!
I'm really annoyed at slack for fumbling this. They could have been #1 for open source but just actively ignored it. It is way nicer having your company chat and open source chat in the same app
a
Yep, and Discord were pretty smart to pivot from gaming-centric to community of any type-centric
d
Anyone else finding irony in that Discord workspaces are called SERVERS? 🤪
I know Adam does.
t
lold at this
a
I voted ā€œnoā€ because I would personally prefer the community on Slack and enjoy using it more, but I’ll add that I would still download and use whatever tool this community moves to. Definitely understand the conflict.
g
@thdxr have you tried approaching Slack about a better deal, or even a match of what you would get via Discord? Just so you don’t have to move the whole community?
j
I thought Slack did a free version for open-source communities? Or maybe it was because they had a non-profit back them
a
The free version drops message history off after 10,000 messages.
j
Just asked the mod of the other slack group I'm in and yea, they are a non-profit and was able to get this https://slack.com/help/articles/204368833-Apply-for-the-Slack-for-Nonprofits-discount
t
we're not a non-profit we love profits!
I do think we tried at some point to talk to slack but not sure
a
Sure seems they could make a distinction between company users and community users. Full price for SST employees, but a fraction as much for community users.
Let's collectively reimagine Slack's business model here in this thread!
j
You are one of the last remaining community that I follow on Slack
You, Prisma, AWS CDK, all the others are / moved to Discord šŸ˜‚
d
Be more specific on ā€œAWS CDKā€ā€¦you mean CDK.dev? Is there a discord? (The slack is absurdly active)
c
I just checked and got this from cdk.dev
I think new people can’t join anymore maybe
that getcha there?
c
oh yeah
thx
j
@Derek Kershner Sorry I meant that SST, Prisma and CDK.dev are the only communities on Slack that I have, everybody else is on Discord
d
gotcha