Hey folks. Anyone experienced with <Tableau> here?...
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Hey folks. Anyone experienced with Tableau here? Our use case involves having the visualisations be embedded on an (authenticated) website. Basically we are a data company and are selling visualisations (based on the data) to 3rd party folks. If you have any idea around good models to implement this while keeping costs down or not having our customers needing to create their own Tableau accounts, that would be helpful to me in evaluating this. Thanks!
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we had similar use case recently so tableau doesnt let you do public embeds/embeds without login on viewer side on team/organisation account, you’ve to login inside of an embed from a viewer account to view it really afaik
Embedded views follow the same licensing and permission restrictions used on Tableau Server and Tableau Online. That is, to see a Tableau view that’s embedded in a web page, the person accessing the view must also have an account on Tableau Server or Tableau Online. For users to successfully authenticate when they click an embedded view, their browsers must be configured to allow third-party cookies.
https://help.tableau.com/current/pro/desktop/en-us/embed.htm
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i’d suggest to self host and use metabase instead if rebuilding the visualization there is not an issue, its free to self host and have better control over embeds ( no login required, you can set a simple password, limit where they can be embedded, etc ) https://www.metabase.com/product/embedded-analytics/
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Yeah. Thanks @chilly-lock-4986 I did read about this. They have a core based licence which allows for guest views. Did you evaluate that? Any idea on the pricing as well? (I don't know why they have a pricing page. Everything points to a contact sales form).
Thanks for the pointer to Metabase. We are already using it for internal reporting and it may serve our purposes as well. Will look in that direction a bit more. Thanks!
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if it is just for internal use then you can download tableau public and create dashboards. You cant download the dashboards directly ,so upload the dashboards into the public tableau account and make it private. then download the tableau dashboard as workbook(wrbk) file. This way you can share the dashboards with anyone and they can open it in their local tableau softwares. Also AWS quicksight is quite cheaper. If you're infra resides in AWS and you don't wat any fancy graphs then quicksight is a good option. Another solution - create plotly interactive graphs in jupyter notebooks and save the graphs as .html so the interactiveness remains intact. this was you can share the graph or embed it.
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I've worked on tableau in my internship quite early in 2018. The major issues with that was the per user pricing and at that time there were no guest login (as you're pointing out, now that thing might've changed). It was very expensive at that time for a user. Other issues was around the learning the DSL language and generating the custom reports (for which we need to write down more code using python). We too found that Metabase was much better for our use case as they just give us SQL out of the box.
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@loud-glass-33663 https://www.saasworthy.com/product/tableau/pricing check here for pricing, i think they removed it recently only from the main website, used to have last time when we were checking. no, we didnt explore it further as core based was customely priced / was too expensive for our usecase iirc
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Have been using & creating dashboard for a long time now - Tableau is the age old elephant that started getting popular in BI revolution in 2000-2010s , but many new tools are doing much better for both startups & enterprises Agree with @chilly-lock-4986 on metabase being a great modern data stack solution - we built and used it for 75-100 stakeholders from scratch at our startup, very smooth and fast - both from analyst/developer and user perspective - always look at BI tools from both perspectives to get a holistic view Also, check out Klipfolio, used it quite a bit in its early days Wrote about these tools many years ago too on it https://webanalyticshub.com/best-dashboard-software/ What’s actually more important is not just BI tools, but also data modelling here as you scale, DBT is the killer product for it - which we love and use
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Also, @billions-pizza-49429 can add more - he works with dune and might have ideas around this too
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@loud-glass-33663 similar to metabase redash too might help. They have dedicated publicly shared urls
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Publish privately on tableau public. Stakeholders can directly access these dashboards using the url, or these dashboards can be embedded behind a login screen.
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Thanks for the tag @swift-pilot-25722. Not my area of expertise. Though, this has become a very informative thread. 💯