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    sashko

    10/19/2016, 7:12 AM
    the goal is to be the most flexible GraphQL solution out there
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    sashko

    10/19/2016, 7:12 AM
    anything we could do to present it better?
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    sashko

    10/19/2016, 7:12 AM
    I suppose it's hard to appeal to big companies and small projects at the same time
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    Matt Mueller (Prisma Client PM)

    10/19/2016, 7:13 AM
    yah, definitely. i think you'd need to take a stand there. two things i was looking for as a soloist doing some contracting:
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    Matt Mueller (Prisma Client PM)

    10/19/2016, 7:14 AM
    1. filesize (minified + gzipped) somewhere on github or docs. (i was being lazy and looked at the uncompressed version, sorry about that!)
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    sashko

    10/19/2016, 7:14 AM
    haha I literally removed the filesize two days ago because it was a drag to maintain
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    sashko

    10/19/2016, 7:14 AM
    I guess I should put it back
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    Matt Mueller (Prisma Client PM)

    10/19/2016, 7:15 AM
    2. like the simplest kernel of an example you can come up with. no babel, no redux, ideally no build system. just a single script that shows the value proposition of apollo-client.
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    sashko

    10/19/2016, 7:16 AM
    hmm
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    sashko

    10/19/2016, 7:16 AM
    have you seen the front page
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    sashko

    10/19/2016, 7:16 AM
    http://dev.apollodata.com/
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    sashko

    10/19/2016, 7:16 AM
    I guess it does use
    import
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    Matt Mueller (Prisma Client PM)

    10/19/2016, 7:16 AM
    yah, those were nice 🙂
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    Matt Mueller (Prisma Client PM)

    10/19/2016, 7:16 AM
    i just can't run it locally
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    sashko

    10/19/2016, 7:16 AM
    this one? https://github.com/apollostack/frontpage-react-app
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    sashko

    10/19/2016, 7:16 AM
    there's an "on GitHub" link in the corner
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    Matt Mueller (Prisma Client PM)

    10/19/2016, 7:17 AM
    oh snap!
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    Matt Mueller (Prisma Client PM)

    10/19/2016, 7:17 AM
    okay let me try this one 🙂
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    sashko

    10/19/2016, 7:17 AM
    heh
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    sashko

    10/19/2016, 7:17 AM
    good feedback!
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    Matt Mueller (Prisma Client PM)

    10/19/2016, 7:18 AM
    finally starting to understand why these tools are useful. been using just straight graphql api calls and a totally functional react views for a while now
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    Matt Mueller (Prisma Client PM)

    10/19/2016, 7:19 AM
    but once you start loading from different pages
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    Matt Mueller (Prisma Client PM)

    10/19/2016, 7:19 AM
    you have no clue what data is already present and which needs to be loaded, so you'll end up loading everything up front.
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    Matt Mueller (Prisma Client PM)

    10/19/2016, 7:19 AM
    not terrible most of the time, but if you're loading 100+ articles up front it starts to get terrible
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    sashko

    10/19/2016, 7:19 AM
    yeah, but it's not always a bad thing
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    sashko

    10/19/2016, 7:20 AM
    I think you can get pretty far with just
    fetch
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    sashko

    10/19/2016, 7:20 AM
    it's a bit of a shame that Relay convinced everyone you need a very fancy GraphQL client
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    Matt Mueller (Prisma Client PM)

    10/19/2016, 7:20 AM
    yep, that's why i don't really want a serious solution
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    Matt Mueller (Prisma Client PM)

    10/19/2016, 7:20 AM
    haha yah for sure
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    sashko

    10/19/2016, 7:20 AM
    yeah the hope is to make Apollo like
    fetch
    , but where you can add all of the features you need one-by-one
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