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    Lookid

    07/24/2019, 4:24 PM
    see last two answers :
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    Lookid

    07/24/2019, 4:24 PM
    https://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/main/219357-small-eddies-les-why-they-universal.html
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    Lookid

    07/24/2019, 4:24 PM
    i'm lazy to try to understand properly now, but tomorrow I will 😄
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    Lookid

    07/24/2019, 6:33 PM
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    Lookid

    07/24/2019, 6:50 PM
    o boi
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    Lookid

    07/24/2019, 6:50 PM
    look at this
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    Lookid

    07/24/2019, 6:50 PM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z099yZzQikâ–¾

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    TerryTome

    07/25/2019, 7:17 AM
    The Quote that was mentioned I had to learn as well: "Big whirls have little whirls that feed on their velocity, and little whirls have lesser whirls and so on to viscosity."
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    Lookid

    07/25/2019, 11:25 AM
    paper from last month
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    Lookid

    07/25/2019, 11:25 AM
    https://arxiv.org/pdf/1906.07144.pdf
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    Lookid

    07/25/2019, 11:25 AM
    way too many equations for me
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    Lookid

    07/25/2019, 11:26 AM
    it says that the true cause of the energy cascade is not vortex stretching (it is, partially), but mainly strain self-amplification (what is that even)
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    thepolynom

    07/25/2019, 11:33 AM
    mmh this is a good question 😄
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    thepolynom

    07/25/2019, 11:34 AM
    sounds like the eddys are killing them self by hitting them selfs stronger ^^
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    thepolynom

    07/25/2019, 11:39 AM
    this paper is tough
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    TerryTome

    07/25/2019, 11:57 AM
    It has not been peer rewieved, right?
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    thepolynom

    07/25/2019, 12:14 PM
    yeah they had a lot of bug fixing but still you could give it a try ^^ depence on what your goal is you could compare the result than say its bullshit or not 😉
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    Lookid

    08/12/2019, 4:40 PM
    Hi, if you ever try LES, you might encounter stuff like this :
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    Lookid

    08/12/2019, 4:41 PM
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    Lookid

    08/12/2019, 4:41 PM
    this wavy garbage is due to central difference + mesh grading
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    Lookid

    08/12/2019, 4:42 PM
    the actual reason is for these is "pressure-velocity decoupling"
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    Lookid

    08/12/2019, 4:42 PM
    so, to solve this while keeping a second order accurate scheme, there's the filteredLinear scheme
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    Lookid

    08/12/2019, 4:43 PM
    more info here : https://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/openfoam-solving/59321-convection-discretization-schemes-les.html The best available low dissipation second order schemes in OpenFOAM are filteredLinear and filteredLinear2. The filtering removes staggering caused by pressure-velocity decoupling by introducing small amounts of upwind. The type of mesh they are used on is not relevant, although the calculations will obviously be more accurate on hexes and less accurate on the same number of tets.
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    Lookid

    08/12/2019, 4:43 PM
    someone asked for reference of the schemes, look at this answer hahah :
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    Lookid

    08/12/2019, 4:43 PM
    Reference? No, Henry invented them from scratch to stop the staggering in LES a few months ago.
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    Lookid

    08/12/2019, 4:49 PM
    it reduces the problem, does not delete it
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    Lookid

    08/12/2019, 4:49 PM
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    Lookid

    10/28/2019, 4:08 PM
    update, it's now some weekend project so I go at snail pace 😄
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    Lookid

    10/28/2019, 4:09 PM
    - URANS fails to capture high frequency vortex shedding, what is the reason for this? I was said it's in it's definition : when deriving URANS you take your velocity field u and decompose it into mean + fluctuation part so that u = u_mean + u'. Nice. For the convection term, at some point you have u*u, so :
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    Lookid

    10/28/2019, 4:11 PM
    (u_mean + u') * (u_mean + u') * = u_mean*u_mean + 2*u_mean*u' + u'*u' The assumption here is that the turbulent scaled is veri smol, so that when averaging that, avg(u') = 0, so avg(2*u_mean*u') = 0 also. This is a reason why by taking delta_t --> 0 for URANS solution, you will never converge to DNS results
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