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# helpdesks
steep-balloon-41261
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dry-elephant-14928
11/29/2023, 6:38 PM"mute" does not require renegotiation.. it's simply a signal message to the SFU to shut off that straem
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narrow-eve-8333
11/29/2023, 6:40 PMThanks @dry-elephant-14928, I got this point, but I am wondering why browser still performs one offer/answer negotiation cycle
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dry-elephant-14928
11/29/2023, 6:40 PMIt should not.. can you point me to where you are seeing that? along with the function calls made
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narrow-eve-8333
11/29/2023, 6:41 PMnarrow-eve-8333
11/29/2023, 6:41 PMand I check webrtc internal
narrow-eve-8333
11/29/2023, 6:42 PMI run my own livekit server
narrow-eve-8333
11/29/2023, 6:42 PMbut my LiveKit server is not the latest version
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dry-elephant-14928
11/29/2023, 6:45 PMI'm not seeing this behavior @narrow-eve-8333
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narrow-eve-8333
11/29/2023, 6:46 PMdo you think the server version matters?
narrow-eve-8333
11/29/2023, 6:47 PMI will run the latest LiveKit server version
narrow-eve-8333
11/29/2023, 6:47 PMmany thanks David
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dry-elephant-14928
11/29/2023, 6:49 PMhmm it shouldn't really matter.. puzzling that you are seeing that
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narrow-eve-8333
11/29/2023, 6:51 PMvery simple case. To simplify thing, only one user joins the room with publish right only
narrow-eve-8333
11/29/2023, 6:51 PMand then mute the camera, check webrtc internal
narrow-eve-8333
11/29/2023, 6:59 PMyou are right!
narrow-eve-8333
11/29/2023, 6:59 PMit turns out the application itself starts offer/answer cycle even I did not click mute button at all
narrow-eve-8333
11/29/2023, 7:00 PMany idea?
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dry-elephant-14928
11/30/2023, 12:20 AMright, the custom mode will always try to publish.